1 00:00:16,216 --> 00:00:17,911 Once I had a pretty little girl 2 00:00:19,819 --> 00:00:22,379 I lose my baby, ain't that sad? 3 00:00:28,628 --> 00:00:30,687 Once I had a pretty little girl 4 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,733 I lose my baby, ain't that sad? 5 00:00:41,007 --> 00:00:43,498 Well you know you can't spend What you ain't got 6 00:00:46,112 --> 00:00:48,478 You can't lose What you ain't never had 7 00:00:54,454 --> 00:00:56,922 Well you know you can't spend What you ain't got 8 00:00:59,492 --> 00:01:02,256 You can't lose What you ain't never had 9 00:02:41,728 --> 00:02:44,720 When the records starts off, she didn't even bat an eye... 10 00:02:46,499 --> 00:02:50,765 how the fuck can a song start off like mid stream... 11 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:55,001 but after the second syllable I'm like Oh, I know what ya talking' about. 12 00:02:55,608 --> 00:02:59,567 Get your hands together for Alligator recording artist, Grammy award winning... 13 00:02:59,679 --> 00:03:03,809 the real deal, I'm talking about Miss Koko Taylor! 14 00:03:12,659 --> 00:03:14,559 Willie Dixon used to always say... 15 00:03:14,627 --> 00:03:18,188 the blues is the roots, and everything else is the fruits. 16 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:21,629 Tell automatic slim 17 00:03:22,602 --> 00:03:24,900 Tell razor toting Jim 18 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:28,872 Tell butcher knife toting Annie 19 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:31,935 Tell fast talking fanny 20 00:03:33,346 --> 00:03:35,576 We're gonna pitch a ball 21 00:03:36,549 --> 00:03:39,211 Down to that union hall 22 00:03:39,819 --> 00:03:42,947 Gonna romp and tromp 'till midnight 23 00:03:43,323 --> 00:03:46,451 We're gonna fuss And fight 'till daylight 24 00:03:46,526 --> 00:03:51,486 We're gonna pitch A wang dang doodle all night long 25 00:03:51,764 --> 00:03:53,595 When I go back to Chicago... 26 00:03:53,666 --> 00:03:55,531 the feeling of the early Chess records... 27 00:03:55,602 --> 00:03:57,866 of the early blues music hits me strong. 28 00:03:58,538 --> 00:04:00,972 It opens up the memories of my youth. 29 00:04:01,507 --> 00:04:04,101 All night long 30 00:04:04,944 --> 00:04:07,105 All night long 31 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,447 We're gonna pitch A wang dang doodle all night 32 00:04:16,823 --> 00:04:19,656 The blues is part of my DNA. 33 00:04:19,726 --> 00:04:22,752 The blues is playing in my head twenty-four hours a day. 34 00:04:22,829 --> 00:04:24,262 When I have a fight with my wife... 35 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:27,197 a blues line comes up from my deepest depths. 36 00:04:36,209 --> 00:04:37,233 I tell people all the time... 37 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:40,074 if you studied the recorded history of the Blues... 38 00:04:40,146 --> 00:04:43,809 Soul, Funk, and Jazz, over the last hundred years... 39 00:04:43,883 --> 00:04:46,681 then you'd get a timeline of how black people lived. 40 00:04:50,089 --> 00:04:53,525 The blues are the roots because black people in this country... 41 00:04:53,593 --> 00:04:56,721 didn't have an outlet to have our stories told. 42 00:04:57,530 --> 00:05:02,331 But in our music, we was able to express ourselves and our inner sides. 43 00:05:03,369 --> 00:05:06,429 This is the land of milk and honey, but where is mine, you know? 44 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:15,379 - How are you? - I'm doing great, and you? 45 00:05:16,549 --> 00:05:17,914 I'm hanging in there. 46 00:05:18,151 --> 00:05:21,143 What can I say... Some days good, some of them bad. 47 00:05:21,220 --> 00:05:24,212 We're still alive, and we made it, a lot of people are gone! 48 00:05:24,290 --> 00:05:25,188 That's the good part! 49 00:05:25,258 --> 00:05:27,226 That's the good part! Some days good and bad. 50 00:05:28,661 --> 00:05:31,562 It's great what's happening to the blues how it's getting all this attention. 51 00:05:31,631 --> 00:05:34,600 - Yeah. It's about time. - About time. 52 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:38,967 Well I don't know what to do 53 00:05:41,474 --> 00:05:44,671 I sit and cry And sing the Blues 54 00:05:44,744 --> 00:05:47,440 You know, today, looking at MTV, VH1... 55 00:05:47,513 --> 00:05:51,313 music is such a part of the whole world culture of young people. 56 00:05:51,384 --> 00:05:54,080 Yet so few of them know the roots. 57 00:06:03,162 --> 00:06:04,754 Now when I was a young boy 58 00:06:06,632 --> 00:06:08,156 At the age of five 59 00:06:10,103 --> 00:06:11,730 My mother said I was gonna be 60 00:06:13,473 --> 00:06:14,735 The greatest man alive 61 00:06:14,807 --> 00:06:17,469 I was lucky enough to be born in the Chess family... 62 00:06:17,543 --> 00:06:22,480 which became one of the founders of the independent record business. 63 00:06:23,883 --> 00:06:25,316 I want you to believe me honey 64 00:06:25,852 --> 00:06:29,515 Chess Records was a small record company out of Chicago... 65 00:06:29,589 --> 00:06:32,922 that was founded by my father and uncle in 1950. 66 00:06:33,926 --> 00:06:36,895 One of their first artists was the great Muddy Waters. 67 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:41,560 And then, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Howlin' Wolf... 68 00:06:41,634 --> 00:06:43,397 Sonny Boy Williamson, Little Walter... 69 00:06:43,469 --> 00:06:47,132 we had them Beethoven and Bachs of blues and rhythm 'n' blues. 70 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:49,774 I've got the key 71 00:06:51,077 --> 00:06:52,704 To the highway 72 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:58,509 Well, I'm billed out And bound to go 73 00:07:00,086 --> 00:07:03,920 I'm gonna leave here running Because 74 00:07:04,791 --> 00:07:07,954 Walking's just too slow 75 00:07:08,761 --> 00:07:13,698 Chess Records froze sentiment, froze understanding... 76 00:07:13,766 --> 00:07:18,135 froze a period of black life here in America. 77 00:07:19,539 --> 00:07:22,201 I looked at Leonard Chess as an innovator of music. 78 00:07:22,275 --> 00:07:24,038 Pretty much making something out of nothing. 79 00:07:28,781 --> 00:07:31,477 I started going around Chess Records at a very young age... 80 00:07:31,551 --> 00:07:33,917 just, I wanted to be around my dad. 81 00:07:33,986 --> 00:07:37,080 He was a workaholic and I was starved for being around my father... 82 00:07:37,156 --> 00:07:38,487 Baby, so long 83 00:07:39,826 --> 00:07:41,453 So long, baby 84 00:07:43,429 --> 00:07:46,330 This is my first road trip, my second road trip with my father... 85 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:47,491 when I was thirteen... 86 00:07:49,035 --> 00:07:52,801 I'm bound to go this highway 87 00:07:53,573 --> 00:07:56,633 Until the day I die 88 00:07:57,810 --> 00:07:59,004 This I find amusing... 89 00:07:59,078 --> 00:08:02,673 it's a gold record given to my father from Chuck Berry. 90 00:08:04,517 --> 00:08:08,351 This was the making of Electric Mud. With Otis Spann, Muddy and me. 91 00:08:12,158 --> 00:08:14,319 Muddy was a truck driver in Chicago... 92 00:08:14,393 --> 00:08:18,159 when my dad called him in to do Chess 1426, "Rollin' Stone". 93 00:08:18,531 --> 00:08:20,692 They became very close friends. 94 00:08:20,766 --> 00:08:23,496 My fatherjust had this tremendous respect for him. 95 00:08:23,736 --> 00:08:25,499 Well, my mother 96 00:08:26,572 --> 00:08:28,335 Told my father 97 00:08:29,542 --> 00:08:34,002 Just before I was born 98 00:08:35,281 --> 00:08:39,240 I got a boy child's coming He's gonna be 99 00:08:39,619 --> 00:08:41,519 He's gonna be a rolling stone 100 00:08:42,421 --> 00:08:44,252 Sure 'enough, he's a rolling stone 101 00:08:45,224 --> 00:08:47,192 Sure 'enough, he's a rolling stone 102 00:08:47,426 --> 00:08:49,587 Do you ever listen to any of the old Chess records? 103 00:08:49,662 --> 00:08:52,597 Yeah, all the time, yeah, definitely. 104 00:08:52,665 --> 00:08:55,600 It's his job! It's his job! 105 00:08:55,668 --> 00:08:58,660 No, but I've rebought a lot of CDs. 106 00:08:59,472 --> 00:09:01,497 All these, as you know... 107 00:09:01,574 --> 00:09:04,202 are all the Chess records left in the family. 108 00:09:04,977 --> 00:09:08,310 These are the exact concepts, the psychedelic... 109 00:09:09,415 --> 00:09:12,407 The infamous, Electric Mud. 110 00:09:12,685 --> 00:09:17,622 It's a concept album using Muddy Waters as the star. 111 00:09:17,690 --> 00:09:19,851 People hated it, but I loved it... 112 00:09:19,926 --> 00:09:23,020 and my band, Electric Mud Band, loved it... 113 00:09:23,262 --> 00:09:26,322 and Muddy Waters, I think, liked it a lot... 114 00:09:27,066 --> 00:09:28,931 again, Muddy Waters... 115 00:09:33,372 --> 00:09:35,169 The gypsy woman told my mother 116 00:09:36,409 --> 00:09:38,206 Before I was born 117 00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:41,713 You got a boy child's coming 118 00:09:42,848 --> 00:09:44,679 Gonna be a son of a gun 119 00:09:46,218 --> 00:09:47,776 Gonna make pretty women 120 00:09:49,388 --> 00:09:51,083 Jump and shout 121 00:09:52,692 --> 00:09:54,557 Then the world wanna know 122 00:09:55,394 --> 00:09:57,487 What this all about 123 00:09:57,563 --> 00:09:59,588 But you know I'm him 124 00:10:02,134 --> 00:10:05,069 Everybody knows I'm him 125 00:10:09,942 --> 00:10:13,309 Well you know I'm the hoochie coochie man 126 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:17,606 Everybody knows I'm him 127 00:10:19,752 --> 00:10:22,220 I paid for this Muddy album, eight pager... 128 00:10:22,588 --> 00:10:24,749 of Muddy getting his hair processed. 129 00:10:25,758 --> 00:10:29,694 I just love Muddy, we had the kind of relationship where he'd allow that. 130 00:10:29,962 --> 00:10:34,695 Come on! What kind of man, except a man who was so confident in himself... 131 00:10:34,767 --> 00:10:35,893 would let you do that? 132 00:10:37,703 --> 00:10:39,193 That's why he's a great man, look at him... 133 00:10:39,271 --> 00:10:41,262 under the driers, smoking a cigarette... 134 00:10:43,342 --> 00:10:46,175 getting it done, and final product, there it is! 135 00:10:46,946 --> 00:10:48,607 On the seventh hour 136 00:10:49,915 --> 00:10:51,576 On the seventh day 137 00:10:53,019 --> 00:10:54,281 On the seventh month 138 00:10:55,955 --> 00:10:57,422 The seven doctors say 139 00:10:59,058 --> 00:11:00,821 He was born for good luck 140 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:05,858 And that you'll see I got seven hundred dollars 141 00:11:05,931 --> 00:11:08,491 I remember Marshall talking about Muddy Waters. 142 00:11:08,567 --> 00:11:11,058 Oh yeah, he was the leader of the man, he was regal... 143 00:11:11,137 --> 00:11:12,764 he would have been a chief, you know? 144 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:15,030 And I said, well, me and hip hop... 145 00:11:15,107 --> 00:11:18,406 you know, maybe I can try to be a Muddy Waters type... 146 00:11:18,477 --> 00:11:21,935 and I'd get more into studying about Muddy Waters, trying to cop his ways. 147 00:11:22,014 --> 00:11:25,245 Well you know I'm the hoochie coochie boy 148 00:11:26,385 --> 00:11:29,479 The whole round world know me Yeah 149 00:11:36,295 --> 00:11:39,628 I believe that, and I know, by fact... 150 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:41,599 that it seeped through all the way to hip hop. 151 00:11:41,667 --> 00:11:47,037 Because I got an email from the famous Chuck D of Public Enemy... 152 00:11:47,106 --> 00:11:49,097 saying that Electric Mud... 153 00:11:49,175 --> 00:11:52,872 was one of his most favorite, influential albums... 154 00:11:52,945 --> 00:11:54,845 and that all of the early hip hop guys... 155 00:11:55,314 --> 00:11:59,375 he says that in his email, were very inspired, and got into it. 156 00:11:59,452 --> 00:12:02,683 So, there you go! 157 00:12:02,755 --> 00:12:04,985 This stuff, there's grandsons! 158 00:12:05,057 --> 00:12:08,322 They're out there! They might not even know it, but they're out there! 159 00:12:11,864 --> 00:12:14,230 Yeah 160 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:15,891 Show that you know how to sing, boy! 161 00:12:46,966 --> 00:12:47,796 What's up? 162 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:49,666 Man, what's up? How are you? 163 00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:59,937 How you doing, buddy? 164 00:13:00,646 --> 00:13:03,137 - Marshall, I'm moving in. - Alright, you're moving in. 165 00:13:03,215 --> 00:13:04,876 Yep, I'm moving in. 166 00:13:05,885 --> 00:13:06,909 How are you, my friend? 167 00:13:08,420 --> 00:13:10,513 - Good to see ya. - Alright. 168 00:13:11,023 --> 00:13:13,287 I was on the whipping post with Electric Mud... 169 00:13:13,359 --> 00:13:15,327 from the moment I made it, you know, from the moment... 170 00:13:15,394 --> 00:13:18,557 - I been on the whipping post before! - Yeah, right, they wrote... 171 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:22,089 Worst blues album ever made. Never even made it to be a blues album. 172 00:13:22,168 --> 00:13:27,435 It took Electric Mud to get me to respect... 173 00:13:27,506 --> 00:13:29,337 what Muddy Waters is about. 174 00:13:29,408 --> 00:13:32,309 That's why I'm thrilled! That was the idea! 175 00:13:32,378 --> 00:13:35,870 But I waited twenty-five, thirty years, over thirty years later... 176 00:13:35,948 --> 00:13:37,210 to know the worth of the motherfucker. 177 00:13:37,283 --> 00:13:40,013 That's the great thing about making history... 178 00:13:40,085 --> 00:13:42,485 is that you never know it. You just do your thing... 179 00:13:42,555 --> 00:13:44,716 I mean, if it wasn't for Electric Mud... 180 00:13:45,057 --> 00:13:47,821 I doubt if I would have really checked out Muddy Waters... 181 00:13:47,893 --> 00:13:49,292 because I bought... 182 00:13:49,361 --> 00:13:50,555 I bought... 183 00:13:50,629 --> 00:13:54,395 I bought Muddy Waters. The London Sessions... 184 00:13:54,466 --> 00:13:56,525 - That's right. - Afterwards... 185 00:13:56,802 --> 00:13:58,793 - and I wasn't as happy. - No! 186 00:13:58,871 --> 00:14:02,602 So I had to go further back, and I went further back... 187 00:14:03,475 --> 00:14:04,407 To purer Muddy. 188 00:14:04,476 --> 00:14:07,240 To purer Muddy, and dug that. 189 00:14:07,313 --> 00:14:09,543 - I kind of like dug the "Rollin' Stone". - That's right. 190 00:14:09,615 --> 00:14:13,711 And I worked my way into understanding... 191 00:14:13,786 --> 00:14:18,155 ya know, boom, what it's all about, to the point where, oh, I got hooked. 192 00:14:18,224 --> 00:14:21,716 But the initial hook in the water was Electric Mud. 193 00:14:21,794 --> 00:14:23,193 I understand. That's why I made it! 194 00:14:23,262 --> 00:14:27,460 That's why I was so thrilled to hear that it worked, thirty-five years later! 195 00:14:27,533 --> 00:14:30,434 I want to hear the beats crisp, I want to hear, you know, more up-tempo... 196 00:14:30,569 --> 00:14:33,834 I want to hear, you know, distortion, I want to hear naysay. 197 00:14:34,006 --> 00:14:37,806 And I wanted, and I dug the voice. 198 00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:40,110 I dug the voice. 199 00:14:40,179 --> 00:14:42,010 And I was going 200 00:14:42,748 --> 00:14:44,477 Going to an old land 201 00:14:45,618 --> 00:14:50,521 This Electric Mud Band I was so careful putting together back in the '60s... 202 00:14:50,823 --> 00:14:56,318 they became, like, amazingly well-known, astute players. 203 00:14:56,395 --> 00:14:58,329 Pete Cosey played with Miles Davis... 204 00:14:58,397 --> 00:15:01,332 the drummer, Morris Jennings, with Ramsey Lewis... 205 00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:04,328 the bass player, Satterfield, played with Earth, Wind, and Fire... 206 00:15:04,403 --> 00:15:07,668 and then with Phil Collins. You know, these people have been around. 207 00:15:08,140 --> 00:15:10,370 I said, Wow, let's put 'em back together... 208 00:15:10,442 --> 00:15:14,242 in a spontaneous way, cut one cut, you know... 209 00:15:14,313 --> 00:15:15,371 with you involved. 210 00:15:15,447 --> 00:15:19,543 Make the spark that'll make somebody wants to dig into it. 211 00:15:19,618 --> 00:15:23,384 The fact that kids don't know this today, is disturbing. 212 00:15:38,137 --> 00:15:39,229 Hello. Gene Barge. 213 00:15:39,305 --> 00:15:41,569 - Gene Barge, you're there. - Yes, sir. 214 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,132 I finally found you, man, I already talked to Cosey and Satterfield. 215 00:15:45,644 --> 00:15:48,613 Here's what it is, June 9th through 10th... 216 00:15:48,681 --> 00:15:50,582 that's the weekend of the Chicago Blues Festival... 217 00:15:50,582 --> 00:15:51,913 - Right. - We're coming to town... 218 00:15:52,017 --> 00:15:55,350 all of us, we'll all get together and do the old Electric Mud Band. 219 00:15:55,754 --> 00:15:59,053 The only thing that we don't have on there, is a keyboard. 220 00:15:59,124 --> 00:16:00,716 We had Leake, didn't we? 221 00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:03,159 I don't know, we had Otis Spann, not Leake. 222 00:16:03,228 --> 00:16:05,253 Cause I've got a photo of it on the wall. 223 00:16:05,331 --> 00:16:06,696 - Oh that's right. - We had Spann... 224 00:16:06,765 --> 00:16:09,325 but we'll have to talk about when we're all together. 225 00:16:09,401 --> 00:16:12,268 Cause I want to bring hip hop into this, with turntables... 226 00:16:12,338 --> 00:16:16,707 and samples of Electric Mud and samples of the original Muddy. 227 00:16:16,775 --> 00:16:19,266 This is going to be good, man, I'm more excited about this... 228 00:16:19,345 --> 00:16:21,575 than any project I've done in the last fifteen years. 229 00:16:21,647 --> 00:16:22,238 Beautiful. 230 00:16:26,251 --> 00:16:28,344 Please, for the first time tonight give it up... 231 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:30,786 for Mr. Otis Rush! 232 00:18:17,429 --> 00:18:20,125 You know, when you got the blues, you always think... 233 00:18:20,199 --> 00:18:21,530 "It's only me that has em". 234 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:25,131 And it's soothing to know that it's a universal problem... 235 00:18:25,971 --> 00:18:29,839 because it's taken some guy, who just got his girlfriend stolen... 236 00:18:29,908 --> 00:18:33,309 by a big city slicker, you know, up at Pete's Bar and Grill... 237 00:18:33,479 --> 00:18:37,074 it's taken this guy and made him realize it's happened to a lot of people. 238 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:43,049 That's why I walk The back streets and cry 239 00:18:49,895 --> 00:18:55,162 Whoa, it hurt me so bad It hurt me so bad 240 00:18:57,936 --> 00:19:01,394 To hear the girl I miss Say goodbye 241 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:38,302 You know, the electric sound never had a chance to build in the South... 242 00:19:38,377 --> 00:19:41,710 because these little juke joints where they played didn't have electricity. 243 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:47,817 They came out seeming more like the Delta Blues. 244 00:19:47,886 --> 00:19:50,616 And when they got to the big city where they had a plug... 245 00:19:51,490 --> 00:19:55,119 they plugged it into the wall, made it into electric, Boom. 246 00:20:05,070 --> 00:20:07,197 Chess records man, it was full of immigrants... 247 00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:11,509 all the artists came up from the south, and my family, they came from Poland. 248 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:18,012 When I left out of Georgia in 1934 249 00:20:18,317 --> 00:20:20,911 My baby, she begged me Daddy, please don't go 250 00:20:20,986 --> 00:20:22,647 But I left that town 251 00:20:23,855 --> 00:20:25,652 You know I left that town 252 00:20:26,825 --> 00:20:30,591 When I left out of Georgia I know I was Chicago bound 253 00:20:31,463 --> 00:20:36,264 Black artists came from Mississippi, from Arkansas up... 254 00:20:36,335 --> 00:20:39,202 from Memphis to Chicago. 255 00:20:40,439 --> 00:20:43,738 Our family came from Poland by boat to New York... 256 00:20:43,809 --> 00:20:45,242 and then by train to Chicago. 257 00:20:45,711 --> 00:20:48,680 I'm gonna tell you something That you all should know 258 00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:51,405 Chicago is the best place I ever known 259 00:20:51,483 --> 00:20:53,041 I'll stay in this town 260 00:20:54,286 --> 00:20:56,015 I won't leave this town 261 00:20:56,221 --> 00:21:00,658 My father and uncle came from a small little Jewish village in Poland... 262 00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:03,854 and actually the whole village came to Chicago. 263 00:21:06,632 --> 00:21:09,294 - This is my uncle Phil. - How ya doing? Pleasure to meet ya. 264 00:21:09,368 --> 00:21:11,700 We've talking about Phil... 265 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:15,570 You know what I've been till's about you. I said, if we've stayed in Chicago... 266 00:21:15,641 --> 00:21:19,475 we've been into rap and hip hop 'cause that, we were so street connected. 267 00:21:19,544 --> 00:21:21,205 And I said you're gonna meet Chuck D... 268 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,443 he's gonna be just like one of our artists would've been. 269 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:26,942 We had fun there. 270 00:21:27,719 --> 00:21:30,244 Shit the characters that came by there, the creativity... 271 00:21:30,322 --> 00:21:32,722 and you always heard it. In 2120 you could hear it... 272 00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:34,986 because on the stairway we had holes in the floor. 273 00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:38,120 You'd hear a beat, you'd hear, people being excited. 274 00:21:38,363 --> 00:21:39,489 That was a very important time... 275 00:21:39,564 --> 00:21:42,897 because it mixed a lot of different things and cultures. 276 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:47,094 You know, cuz in this country if somebody's white more often than not... 277 00:21:47,172 --> 00:21:48,696 they ain't living no where near black folks... 278 00:21:49,675 --> 00:21:52,007 so therefore the cultures are never ya know. 279 00:21:52,878 --> 00:21:55,847 But if you have people that come from a different background... 280 00:21:55,914 --> 00:21:58,542 and then you have pretty much everybody and immigrants... 281 00:21:58,617 --> 00:22:00,744 and people from down south living together... 282 00:22:00,819 --> 00:22:02,878 you're gonna see something come up out of it... 283 00:22:02,954 --> 00:22:04,922 that you're not gonna even be able to explain. 284 00:22:04,990 --> 00:22:05,854 It's gonna be like... 285 00:22:06,925 --> 00:22:10,417 Down at a junkyard down at 29th and State... 286 00:22:11,229 --> 00:22:12,526 are you familiar with that area? 287 00:22:13,231 --> 00:22:14,994 Right across the street was a church. 288 00:22:15,534 --> 00:22:18,560 A little bungalow. 289 00:22:18,637 --> 00:22:20,901 - The gospel Black, it was a Black gospel... - Black Gospel. 290 00:22:20,972 --> 00:22:25,636 They'd start like on a Friday night with the hand clapping and... 291 00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:28,640 shouting and man, I'll tell you, that was great. 292 00:22:29,114 --> 00:22:32,083 Me and Leonard would stand there and say we got to go home and eat. 293 00:22:32,150 --> 00:22:33,913 We'll eat later, let's just watch this. 294 00:22:36,221 --> 00:22:37,347 That's when we got... 295 00:22:37,889 --> 00:22:41,518 actually when we got the whole nucleus of the thing started, right there. 296 00:22:41,593 --> 00:22:42,617 Need no power 297 00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:44,662 We need no power 298 00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:50,166 We need no power 299 00:22:50,736 --> 00:22:52,226 We need no power 300 00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:53,966 Power to live right 301 00:22:54,539 --> 00:22:56,131 Power to live right 302 00:22:56,541 --> 00:22:58,065 Power to live right 303 00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,844 Need you Jesus 304 00:23:00,212 --> 00:23:01,770 Need you Jesus 305 00:23:02,114 --> 00:23:03,775 Need you Jesus 306 00:23:04,082 --> 00:23:05,515 Need you Jesus 307 00:23:05,884 --> 00:23:07,078 Power 308 00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:09,180 Power 309 00:23:09,621 --> 00:23:10,679 Need you Lord 310 00:23:11,022 --> 00:23:14,924 Maxwell Street was a center for many Jewish immigrants... 311 00:23:15,761 --> 00:23:17,991 selling things, buying things... 312 00:23:18,063 --> 00:23:21,157 and it also attracted the Black people who lived in that area. 313 00:23:21,233 --> 00:23:25,192 Why did you get your Funny little shoe? 314 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:27,363 You dress so high 315 00:23:27,806 --> 00:23:31,298 I got a huge offer at Maxwell 316 00:23:31,376 --> 00:23:33,173 I got dress up and household 317 00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:36,577 Here's Maxwell Street right, here now, this is it. 318 00:23:40,285 --> 00:23:41,377 This is it. 319 00:23:42,521 --> 00:23:44,819 There's nothing left of Maxwell Street. 320 00:23:45,157 --> 00:23:46,749 Nothing left but them. 321 00:23:46,992 --> 00:23:48,084 Oh, my God. 322 00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:53,864 We got Blues going on Every Sunday afternoon 323 00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:58,892 We got hot good songs going on The Blues, come on 324 00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:04,041 People, don't you wanna go? Well 325 00:24:04,376 --> 00:24:10,144 Back to that old street town Sweet home Chicago 326 00:24:10,348 --> 00:24:11,815 Play that thing now 327 00:24:13,118 --> 00:24:15,348 There's no one here man, it's gone. 328 00:24:18,223 --> 00:24:19,417 This is so typical. 329 00:24:20,225 --> 00:24:22,819 This is the shit, this is how across from Chess was. 330 00:24:22,894 --> 00:24:24,828 This is it. Michigan Ave was like this. 331 00:24:27,165 --> 00:24:28,792 And now it's all gone, man. 332 00:24:50,288 --> 00:24:53,849 I'm upset to see this, man, this is like East Germany or something. 333 00:24:53,925 --> 00:24:55,085 Bombed out. 334 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,687 Yeah, there's a sign over there that says Blacks plus Jews equals Blues. 335 00:24:58,897 --> 00:25:01,832 And that's what Maxwell St. Is about. People coming together... 336 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:04,596 all mixes and races learning from each other... 337 00:25:04,669 --> 00:25:06,534 and producing something great from the world. 338 00:25:09,241 --> 00:25:10,208 I'm gonna boogie 339 00:25:11,977 --> 00:25:13,808 Down on Maxwell Street 340 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,238 All I know is that the music... 341 00:25:18,316 --> 00:25:19,806 tells the best stories. 342 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,585 Today the similarities are there... 343 00:25:25,657 --> 00:25:29,491 and we can use some of the aspects from the past to apply to the future... 344 00:25:30,095 --> 00:25:32,359 but if you keep the music away from the past... 345 00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:33,829 people don't have a past to draw to... 346 00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:35,890 and they don't have a future to look forward to... 347 00:25:35,967 --> 00:25:38,629 so everything is Now, now, now, now. 348 00:25:47,012 --> 00:25:50,038 Black folks first coming to Chicago... 349 00:25:50,582 --> 00:25:52,447 coming from up Mississippi still are like... 350 00:25:52,517 --> 00:25:54,815 ok, we're getting the fuck away from Jim Crow... 351 00:25:54,886 --> 00:25:57,218 and we're just gonna try and make it, you know. 352 00:25:57,622 --> 00:25:59,613 They cut my lights off this mornin' 353 00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:03,924 They set my furniture outdoors 354 00:26:06,998 --> 00:26:09,831 I was listening To the weatherman 'while ago 355 00:26:11,603 --> 00:26:14,504 And he's says It's gonna rain and snow 356 00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:18,843 My daughter' got pneumonia 357 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:24,073 And my son is down with the flu 358 00:26:26,251 --> 00:26:29,243 My whole family's Sufferin' from malnutrition 359 00:26:30,889 --> 00:26:36,293 And I can't even Afford them soup 360 00:26:36,928 --> 00:26:38,555 Hey, angel of mercy 361 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:46,969 Please look down on me 362 00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:58,781 Oh, angel of mercy 363 00:27:02,153 --> 00:27:06,055 A little mercy is all I need 364 00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:25,839 Before Chess record my dad had the Macomba Lounge in Chicago. 365 00:27:30,749 --> 00:27:34,082 Macomba Lounge was an after hours kind of club... 366 00:27:34,486 --> 00:27:38,115 frequented by musicians, prostitutes and drug dealers... 367 00:27:38,823 --> 00:27:42,259 with live music playing, a rib pit in the back. 368 00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:45,956 Bright lights, big city Gone to my baby's head 369 00:27:46,631 --> 00:27:53,127 I'd tried to tell the woman But she doesn't believe a word I said 370 00:27:56,841 --> 00:27:58,433 My dad took me down there. 371 00:27:58,510 --> 00:28:01,638 On my first trip there I guess I was 5 or 6 years old. 372 00:28:01,913 --> 00:28:04,211 As we walked in there were gun shots... 373 00:28:04,649 --> 00:28:07,345 and he threw me like a football... 374 00:28:07,552 --> 00:28:10,282 over the bar to my uncle, my uncle Phil. 375 00:28:10,655 --> 00:28:12,316 Who caught me and laid down... 376 00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:16,224 on the barroom floor behind the bar, with me under him to protect me. 377 00:28:19,864 --> 00:28:22,924 To this day when I walk in to any old funky bar... 378 00:28:23,001 --> 00:28:25,629 and smell that stale liquor and cigarette smell... 379 00:28:25,737 --> 00:28:28,262 I immediately feel my uncle's weight on top of me... 380 00:28:28,339 --> 00:28:31,502 pressing my little 5 year old face to the floor boards. 381 00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:33,973 I feel good doing' right 382 00:28:34,979 --> 00:28:37,174 But I feel much better doing wrong 383 00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:43,020 I feel good doing' right 384 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:46,084 But I feel much better doing wrong 385 00:28:49,327 --> 00:28:51,022 I drink and I gamble 386 00:28:51,863 --> 00:28:54,229 Stay out all night long 387 00:28:57,836 --> 00:29:01,499 I go to race track during daytime Go to casinos late at night 388 00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:05,808 When I win a pocket full of money I tell you, I feel alright 389 00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:07,905 I feel good doing right 390 00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:11,006 But I feel much better doing wrong 391 00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:16,345 I drink and I gamble 392 00:29:17,288 --> 00:29:19,483 Stay out all night long 393 00:30:14,045 --> 00:30:17,913 Chicago has so changed, I mean, this used to be funky. 394 00:30:18,683 --> 00:30:20,275 But now we're coming to Michigan Avenue. 395 00:30:21,352 --> 00:30:25,345 Where I'm going to turn right and then we're gonna head down to Record Road. 396 00:30:26,658 --> 00:30:28,091 South Michigan Avenue. 397 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:45,507 - Where did Veejay used to be? - Veejay used to be up here on the left. 398 00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:51,844 Okay, here we come... 399 00:30:52,317 --> 00:30:54,945 this is 2120, the original Chess building. 400 00:30:57,288 --> 00:30:58,846 The original door is there. 401 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:02,383 I'm glad it's landmark... it's still here. 402 00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:04,662 This is it. 403 00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:08,821 How many times did I put my hand on this door to come to work? 404 00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,368 You see that: Look, worn out! This is it. 405 00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:13,569 That's the original shit. 406 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:18,573 Let's run one. 407 00:31:19,077 --> 00:31:19,805 Bo. 408 00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:21,671 Let's run one more. 409 00:31:23,214 --> 00:31:24,306 Bo. 410 00:31:25,383 --> 00:31:26,372 Bo. 411 00:31:28,586 --> 00:31:29,553 Let's run one down, Bo. 412 00:31:29,787 --> 00:31:32,449 You know, the Chess sound it was always a raw sound. 413 00:31:32,523 --> 00:31:34,582 Here we go. It's Master AK4. 414 00:31:34,826 --> 00:31:38,023 They did anything to actually get those recordings across. 415 00:31:40,632 --> 00:31:42,691 They'd get everybody to get that take... 416 00:31:42,767 --> 00:31:46,965 and keep the dirt, keep the grit, and make it keep it raw... 417 00:31:47,038 --> 00:31:49,506 you know, get the feel. It's all feel. 418 00:31:54,178 --> 00:31:56,976 Chess Records had the top musicians in Chicago. 419 00:31:59,183 --> 00:32:03,313 Howlin Wolf, one of the biggest, toughest guys I ever met... 420 00:32:03,788 --> 00:32:06,313 hands as big as a baseball glove... 421 00:32:06,524 --> 00:32:10,221 shoes so wide they had to take a razor blade to cut the sides... 422 00:32:10,495 --> 00:32:14,761 you'd always see his socks coming out of the slit, on the side of his shoes. 423 00:32:14,832 --> 00:32:16,959 Well if you're a long way from home 424 00:32:17,902 --> 00:32:19,392 Can't sleep at night 425 00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:21,935 Grab your telephone 426 00:32:22,173 --> 00:32:23,640 Something ain't right 427 00:32:23,708 --> 00:32:24,834 That's evil 428 00:32:26,678 --> 00:32:29,146 Evil is going on wrong 429 00:32:31,983 --> 00:32:34,042 I am warnin'ya brother 430 00:32:35,086 --> 00:32:37,577 You got to watch your happy home 431 00:32:38,523 --> 00:32:41,856 You know, when you don't have no money, no job... 432 00:32:41,926 --> 00:32:44,224 no place to stay, no place to sleep... 433 00:32:44,996 --> 00:32:49,160 you go to work, you gonna take it easy, you gonna think of strong things... 434 00:32:49,233 --> 00:32:52,828 you gonna go out and get some if you have to stick up somebody... 435 00:32:52,904 --> 00:32:54,064 you know what I mean? 436 00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:57,471 So conditions make these things happen today. 437 00:32:58,209 --> 00:33:00,336 Well If ya call her on the telephone 438 00:33:01,079 --> 00:33:02,546 And she goes awful slow 439 00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:05,377 You better grab The first train smokin' 440 00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:08,747 If you have to hobo That's evil 441 00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:12,054 Evil is in your home 442 00:33:15,059 --> 00:33:16,856 I am trying to warn ya brother 443 00:33:18,129 --> 00:33:20,620 You gotta watch your happy home 444 00:33:21,499 --> 00:33:25,162 I was three years old, started calling me Wolf. 445 00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:28,061 My grandfather gave me that name. 446 00:33:28,139 --> 00:33:30,369 He used to sit down and tell me tall stories... 447 00:33:30,441 --> 00:33:32,306 about what the wolf would do... 448 00:33:32,377 --> 00:33:35,437 you know, cuz I was a bad boy, you know. 449 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,905 I was always in devilment. 450 00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:42,518 I say, well what does a wolf do? And he says, 'Howl'. 451 00:33:42,587 --> 00:33:45,715 And you know that would scare me, you know, and I'd get mad about this. 452 00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:48,585 I didn't know this was gonna be a great name for me. 453 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,987 If you make it to your house 454 00:33:51,896 --> 00:33:53,625 Knock on the front door 455 00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:56,466 Run around to the back You'll catch him 456 00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:58,525 Evil Just before he go 457 00:33:58,603 --> 00:34:00,093 That's evil 458 00:34:00,671 --> 00:34:03,003 Evil in your home 459 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:08,137 I am trying to warn ya Brother 460 00:34:09,180 --> 00:34:11,307 You gotta watch your happy home 461 00:34:12,383 --> 00:34:14,943 I also made a psychedelic album with the Wolf. 462 00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:17,947 I used the same band, the Electric Mud Band... 463 00:34:18,189 --> 00:34:20,157 the same guys who were gonna meet here in Chicago. 464 00:34:20,224 --> 00:34:24,183 Well, long way from home Can't sleep at night 465 00:34:24,662 --> 00:34:28,393 Know another mule Kicking in your stall 466 00:34:28,466 --> 00:34:29,956 You know that's evil 467 00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:33,166 When Wolf first heard it, he hated it. 468 00:34:34,338 --> 00:34:36,829 But I was ballsey enough to admit that he didn't like it... 469 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:38,773 that I put it right on the album. 470 00:34:38,876 --> 00:34:40,366 I am trying to warn ya Brother 471 00:34:41,479 --> 00:34:44,004 You gotta watch your happy home 472 00:34:45,583 --> 00:34:48,711 That big building there, the end of the block on the left. 473 00:34:48,786 --> 00:34:51,482 That's the Chess building where we recorded Electric Mud. 474 00:34:51,556 --> 00:34:52,523 You see the sign on the left? 475 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:55,650 That was the WVON sign, when we had that radio station. 476 00:34:56,027 --> 00:34:59,326 - So, I mean, so when you left 2120... - We came right here... 477 00:34:59,697 --> 00:35:03,463 - you see the old Chess letters on it? - Right, wow. Damn. 478 00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:08,804 It was an amazing building, man. Studios, pressing, printing, mastering. 479 00:35:13,010 --> 00:35:15,205 You could record there on Friday morning... 480 00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:17,740 and have a record by Saturday noon. 481 00:35:27,892 --> 00:35:29,655 I tried to flash it on Lee Johnny 482 00:35:29,927 --> 00:35:32,020 But you wouldn't let me pray 483 00:35:34,098 --> 00:35:36,089 I wanted to read Flash John 484 00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:38,965 But woman you know You won't let me play 485 00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:45,473 If you don't be mine to keep The devil gonna get you one day 486 00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:06,453 I was so comfortable being around black people that I had no concept... 487 00:36:06,531 --> 00:36:10,558 that it was very unusual, in the 50s, even in Chicago. 488 00:36:11,536 --> 00:36:16,303 There weren't many, many social functions that had a mixed crowd. 489 00:36:16,541 --> 00:36:20,033 This was before, you know, civil rights, before Martin Luther King. 490 00:36:28,319 --> 00:36:32,085 My bar mitzvah was one of the first interracial big social events... 491 00:36:32,156 --> 00:36:33,589 that took place in Chicago. 492 00:36:37,628 --> 00:36:41,496 It was a big bash, I got a custom-made suit, with stitching down the side... 493 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:43,189 same tailor that Muddy went to. 494 00:36:49,774 --> 00:36:52,402 We're gonna get married 495 00:36:53,511 --> 00:36:56,173 We're gonna get married 496 00:36:56,847 --> 00:36:57,745 Are you glad? 497 00:36:57,949 --> 00:36:58,813 Oh, yes 498 00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:00,549 Me too 499 00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:07,119 Don't play with my money If I don't get married 500 00:37:10,695 --> 00:37:12,959 Daddy gonna give me Horse and carriage 501 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,725 Mama gonna give you A waiting van 502 00:37:22,373 --> 00:37:24,432 When daddy gonna give you That 8 acres of land 503 00:37:30,982 --> 00:37:33,974 Bo Diddley, another one of those great original creative artists... 504 00:37:34,051 --> 00:37:35,780 that came in off the street into Chess. 505 00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:39,115 My father and my uncle... 506 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:41,715 were always willing to take a chance on a different sound. 507 00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:55,300 - Tell me baby - Bring it to Jerome 508 00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:57,841 - What you trying to do? - Bring it to Jerome 509 00:37:57,908 --> 00:37:59,569 You ain't seen me humming 510 00:37:59,644 --> 00:38:02,169 This song, "Bring It to Jerome", was about Jerome Green... 511 00:38:02,246 --> 00:38:03,907 who was the maraca player. He was... 512 00:38:03,981 --> 00:38:09,044 He was a real influence of that African rhythm to Bo... 513 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,610 he was always the sidekick. 514 00:38:10,921 --> 00:38:14,652 I got arrested in Myrtle Beach, SC, recording them live... 515 00:38:14,725 --> 00:38:17,455 Bo Diddley's Beach Party, because he jumped off the stage... 516 00:38:17,528 --> 00:38:19,962 with the maracas, and white girls dancing around him. 517 00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:25,661 They came to me, they threw me against the wall. They said... 518 00:38:26,437 --> 00:38:30,168 "Jew Boy, you messing around with these niggers gonna get you locked up... 519 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:31,731 where no-one's gonna find you". 520 00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:35,670 I got a baby that's all so 521 00:38:36,614 --> 00:38:38,343 Some call us nigger lovers... 522 00:38:38,416 --> 00:38:40,907 others accuse us of ripping off our artists. 523 00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:42,953 But really we had the same agenda... 524 00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:44,612 we both wanted a better life. 525 00:38:45,723 --> 00:38:48,886 And it was all about making money. It wasn't about record royalties. 526 00:38:48,959 --> 00:38:52,087 If we got it on the radio, you could work that weekend for $350. 527 00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:54,654 $350 then was like five dollars thousand now. 528 00:38:54,732 --> 00:38:57,633 You had a few weekends of $350 an hour, you were driving a Cadillac... 529 00:38:57,702 --> 00:38:59,260 you had a fine bitch at your side. 530 00:38:59,503 --> 00:39:01,994 I look back then, and it's like, you know... 531 00:39:02,073 --> 00:39:04,473 the fact that some of those cats had their bills paid... 532 00:39:04,608 --> 00:39:06,940 they got a new Cadillac here, you know... 533 00:39:07,578 --> 00:39:10,948 you could say that could have been the mentalities of the previous century. 534 00:39:10,948 --> 00:39:13,007 And we call it post-slave mentality. 535 00:39:13,217 --> 00:39:16,914 It wasn't the labels, that said "I want to be the company store". 536 00:39:16,987 --> 00:39:19,820 It was the artists coming in every day: "I need", "I want". 537 00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:23,053 It's backwards, you know, reading stories about Little Walter... 538 00:39:23,127 --> 00:39:27,461 I mean, stories about Little Walter and certain guys in hip hop are so similar. 539 00:39:27,531 --> 00:39:28,555 So similar! 540 00:39:28,632 --> 00:39:33,035 It's like, you could tell the cat, "Look man, you need to calm down". 541 00:39:33,104 --> 00:39:34,731 "No, man, fuck that, man... 542 00:39:34,805 --> 00:39:37,740 really, if it comes down to it I'll blow you out, I mean, eh". 543 00:39:37,808 --> 00:39:41,005 You had these people from Mississippi and Arkansas coming to Chicago... 544 00:39:41,078 --> 00:39:44,570 and they had problems. They had to go to the... my father... 545 00:39:44,648 --> 00:39:47,173 you wanna call him the plantation owner, then call him! Who else! 546 00:39:47,251 --> 00:39:48,946 They would come to him for advice! 547 00:39:49,186 --> 00:39:53,020 I guess your father was like, "Well, fuck it, I'm looking out for you". 548 00:39:53,090 --> 00:39:57,789 When my dad died, there was $150,000 worth of IOUS with a rubber band. 549 00:39:58,062 --> 00:40:02,294 50s, 100s, three hundreds. 95�% of them, to black people. 550 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,196 My uncle, when he went through it... 551 00:40:05,269 --> 00:40:06,827 my dad had so many people at his funeral... 552 00:40:06,904 --> 00:40:08,633 my uncle said, "You see all those motherfuckers? 553 00:40:08,706 --> 00:40:10,674 They're coming to make sure he's dead... 554 00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:13,539 so they don't have to pay back those motherfuckin' notes". 555 00:40:14,612 --> 00:40:16,170 If the Blues was money 556 00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:20,083 I'd be the richest man in town 557 00:40:24,221 --> 00:40:26,553 If the Blues was money People 558 00:40:28,058 --> 00:40:30,117 I'd be the richest man in town 559 00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:35,865 Well since I'm not rich 560 00:40:37,301 --> 00:40:39,633 Blues Please don't let me down 561 00:40:43,174 --> 00:40:46,302 I got the blues so bad 562 00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:48,811 I don't know what to do 563 00:40:52,349 --> 00:40:58,345 I got the blues so bad I don't know what to do 564 00:40:59,924 --> 00:41:02,324 Willie Dixon, well, he was more than just an artist. 565 00:41:02,893 --> 00:41:06,192 Man, he might have been the first Black record executive in the world. 566 00:41:06,397 --> 00:41:10,595 He did everything with those artists: Business, made music, wrote lyrics. 567 00:41:17,875 --> 00:41:20,901 Could fill spoons full of diamonds 568 00:41:22,279 --> 00:41:24,941 Could fill spoons full of gold 569 00:41:26,283 --> 00:41:29,741 Just a little spoon Of your precious love 570 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,112 Will satisfy my soul 571 00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:36,452 Men lies about you 572 00:41:37,761 --> 00:41:40,229 Some of them cries about you 573 00:41:40,297 --> 00:41:41,889 He can write for the character... 574 00:41:42,099 --> 00:41:44,761 the great stuff he did for Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters. 575 00:41:45,469 --> 00:41:49,269 He'd get inside their personalities, and he'd just write just for them. 576 00:41:49,507 --> 00:41:53,034 And then, one of his key discoveries was when he walked in with Koko Taylor. 577 00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:54,741 Ernestine 578 00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:01,811 You'd better leave my man alone 579 00:42:01,886 --> 00:42:04,787 When he found Koko Taylor, who was cleaning houses in Chicago then... 580 00:42:05,723 --> 00:42:07,884 he came in and said, "I've got something hot". 581 00:42:07,958 --> 00:42:09,186 Ernestine 582 00:42:12,796 --> 00:42:16,562 Because of you I can't go on 583 00:42:22,973 --> 00:42:26,238 I told you for the last time 584 00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:31,238 To find you a man of you own 585 00:42:34,084 --> 00:42:37,884 When I came up here I was like 21 years old. 586 00:42:38,589 --> 00:42:42,423 I was living down in Memphis... 587 00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:43,687 I had a job down there... 588 00:42:43,794 --> 00:42:47,457 working on a farm, picking cotton, chopping cotton. 589 00:42:47,731 --> 00:42:51,690 I was tired of picking cotton, so I said, I going to Chicago. 590 00:42:51,902 --> 00:42:56,430 They tell me, you go up there you can find a real good job. 591 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,508 That thing you're playing Makes me want to fight 592 00:43:01,412 --> 00:43:04,939 Went to see Howlin' Wolf, 'cause he was one of my favorite people. 593 00:43:06,817 --> 00:43:10,253 And the Howlin' Wolf got up and made the announcement, he said... 594 00:43:10,321 --> 00:43:12,619 "We got a little Koko in the house. 595 00:43:13,123 --> 00:43:17,583 We gonna see if we can get her up here to do a couple of tunes for us". 596 00:43:17,995 --> 00:43:21,863 So, sure enough, when he got through with his, what he was going to do now... 597 00:43:21,932 --> 00:43:27,393 he wanted to go and get him a little nip, so he goes and calls me up... 598 00:43:27,471 --> 00:43:29,496 and go to the back so he could get that bottle. 599 00:43:29,673 --> 00:43:32,039 Two strikes you lose 600 00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:34,937 I got up there to do two songs. 601 00:43:36,413 --> 00:43:39,541 When I came down, I met this big man... 602 00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:42,643 all tall, reared back and everything, and he goes... 603 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,555 "I'm Willie Dixon. Girl, I like the way you sing them blues". 604 00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:50,624 He said, "I'd like to take you down to Chess". 605 00:43:53,163 --> 00:43:57,532 Next day, Leonard Chess, he listened to my voice and he said... 606 00:43:57,601 --> 00:43:59,728 "Yeah, she got the voice, man". 607 00:44:00,104 --> 00:44:03,198 He said, "I want you to start working on her right away". 608 00:44:03,741 --> 00:44:07,700 Dixon came back with a tune that I'm working on tonight. 609 00:44:07,945 --> 00:44:12,814 That was the 1st tune on Chess records, it was, "I've Got What it Takes". 610 00:44:13,050 --> 00:44:16,349 Yeah I got what it takes 611 00:44:18,522 --> 00:44:23,289 Make a good man A good man into my slave 612 00:44:25,963 --> 00:44:30,662 I got that something that they go 613 00:44:31,368 --> 00:44:36,101 My love got me the right man 614 00:44:38,909 --> 00:44:41,070 I got it 615 00:44:44,548 --> 00:44:46,140 A lot of people think... 616 00:44:46,216 --> 00:44:51,017 blues music is something to make you look sad and look down at yourself... 617 00:44:51,255 --> 00:44:54,190 but I tell everybody, not my blues. 618 00:44:54,391 --> 00:44:57,554 My music is like a therapy. 619 00:44:57,728 --> 00:45:00,026 It's designed to make people look up... 620 00:45:00,330 --> 00:45:05,290 pep up, get up, smile, feel better about themselves. 621 00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:08,463 Yeah I got what it takes 622 00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:15,134 Making love Jelly, jelly, jelly jam 623 00:45:19,883 --> 00:45:22,977 Yeah I got what it takes 624 00:45:24,621 --> 00:45:29,524 Making love Jelly, jelly, jelly jam 625 00:45:34,164 --> 00:45:38,032 I got that same thing to make her 626 00:45:38,802 --> 00:45:43,671 My lay, lay, lay down with a man 627 00:45:46,877 --> 00:45:48,504 I got it 628 00:45:51,548 --> 00:45:52,674 I got it babe 629 00:45:53,117 --> 00:45:54,880 Yeah I got it 630 00:45:58,555 --> 00:46:01,581 Marie, is that you? It's Marshall Chess. 631 00:46:02,292 --> 00:46:05,455 - I knew it was you! - Hi, yeah how are you? 632 00:46:05,729 --> 00:46:07,822 I'm doing good. I'm glad to see you're here. 633 00:46:07,931 --> 00:46:09,330 I didn't know you were going to be here. 634 00:46:09,399 --> 00:46:11,993 - Yeah, I came with my son, Jamar. - Jamar! 635 00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:13,502 Pleased to meet you! 636 00:46:13,570 --> 00:46:15,367 I had to give him a taste of the Chicago blues! 637 00:46:15,439 --> 00:46:17,805 - You got it. - Go by the building and everything... 638 00:46:17,875 --> 00:46:21,538 You didn't make a mistake. You're like your daddy all over again. 639 00:46:21,612 --> 00:46:23,011 That's alright, he was alright. 640 00:46:48,472 --> 00:46:51,703 Talk to me baby On the telephone 641 00:46:52,242 --> 00:46:55,405 Stop what you're doing And come on home 642 00:46:55,479 --> 00:46:56,810 I can't hold out 643 00:46:58,482 --> 00:47:00,279 I can't hold out too long 644 00:47:03,854 --> 00:47:05,515 I get a real good feeling' 645 00:47:06,623 --> 00:47:08,523 Talking to you on the phone 646 00:47:08,692 --> 00:47:10,660 When I was a young kid, both Muddy Waters... 647 00:47:10,727 --> 00:47:13,890 and Howlin' Wolf gave me sexual advice. 648 00:47:14,198 --> 00:47:16,564 When I was a young kid, they'd see me and they'd say... 649 00:47:16,633 --> 00:47:18,498 "Did you get any yet? Did you get any yet?" 650 00:47:18,569 --> 00:47:21,163 I can't hold out 651 00:47:22,139 --> 00:47:23,436 I can't hold out too long 652 00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:25,634 Muddy Waters once wrote me a poem... 653 00:47:25,709 --> 00:47:29,167 that I could change the words to give to a girl I had a crush on. 654 00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:33,507 Buddy Guy brought me a mojo that was to get girls. I used to wear under my shirt. 655 00:47:33,650 --> 00:47:34,844 Really from the Delta! 656 00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:39,645 Talk to me baby 657 00:47:39,723 --> 00:47:43,819 Talk to me baby 658 00:47:43,894 --> 00:47:47,455 Talk to me baby 659 00:47:47,531 --> 00:47:52,093 Come on Talk to me baby 660 00:47:52,169 --> 00:47:56,538 Cause I get a really good feeling Talking to you on the phone 661 00:47:56,807 --> 00:47:58,001 That's all right. 662 00:48:02,980 --> 00:48:05,005 You see somebody out there in the audience... 663 00:48:05,215 --> 00:48:08,184 and when you sing a song about 'em, you look straight at 'em... 664 00:48:09,286 --> 00:48:10,913 because she'll gonna know what you're talking about. 665 00:48:12,189 --> 00:48:13,850 Because I seen three or four of 'em out there today... 666 00:48:14,191 --> 00:48:18,321 I throw a kiss at a couple of them. I wink my eye at a couple of 'em. 667 00:48:18,395 --> 00:48:19,293 But, you know... 668 00:48:20,731 --> 00:48:25,031 that means, it doesn't mean that I want them. 669 00:48:25,102 --> 00:48:28,538 It just means that, you know, that I'm trying to tell them something. 670 00:48:29,439 --> 00:48:30,633 They're beautiful lady... 671 00:48:31,708 --> 00:48:34,233 and they need me! 672 00:48:34,478 --> 00:48:35,604 Now you know that, man! 673 00:48:37,147 --> 00:48:42,210 Yeah Talk to me baby 674 00:48:42,286 --> 00:48:43,548 Get a really good feeling 675 00:48:44,955 --> 00:48:46,547 Talking to you on the phone 676 00:48:54,364 --> 00:48:55,228 Good feeling. 677 00:49:02,172 --> 00:49:05,335 In 1963, my senior year of college. 678 00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:10,278 My dad, leaving Chess records, late at night, was robbed and beat up. 679 00:49:11,315 --> 00:49:12,873 When I heard that I flipped out... 680 00:49:13,083 --> 00:49:15,779 and I came home. I quit college and came home. 681 00:49:15,953 --> 00:49:17,250 I'm ready 682 00:49:18,322 --> 00:49:20,483 Ready as anybody can be 683 00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,083 I made a big scene about... 684 00:49:24,328 --> 00:49:26,762 I wanted to go to work, you know. I didn't care about college. 685 00:49:26,830 --> 00:49:29,958 I was raised to be a record man, it's time I wanted to be one. 686 00:49:30,033 --> 00:49:30,829 They accepted it. 687 00:49:30,901 --> 00:49:32,732 I got an axe handle pistol 688 00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:34,464 On a graveyard frame 689 00:49:34,538 --> 00:49:36,301 That shoot tombstone bullets 690 00:49:36,373 --> 00:49:37,965 Wearing balls and chain 691 00:49:38,041 --> 00:49:39,770 I'm drinking TNT 692 00:49:39,843 --> 00:49:41,936 I'm smoking dynamite 693 00:49:42,012 --> 00:49:44,207 I hope some screwball 694 00:49:44,281 --> 00:49:46,511 Start a fight Because I'm ready 695 00:49:46,583 --> 00:49:48,483 So I started going to work. 696 00:49:49,052 --> 00:49:51,520 No-one told me what my job was... 697 00:49:51,588 --> 00:49:52,520 no-one paid me. 698 00:49:53,890 --> 00:49:55,653 Week after week, I would come to work. 699 00:49:56,526 --> 00:50:01,862 So, finally, I built up the courage, and I said, "Dad, tell me, what's up? 700 00:50:01,932 --> 00:50:03,866 I mean, where am I supposed to sit? 701 00:50:03,934 --> 00:50:06,300 What's my job going to be at Chess Records?" 702 00:50:07,070 --> 00:50:08,230 He said, "What's your job? 703 00:50:08,305 --> 00:50:10,967 You stupid motherfucker! Your job is watching me!" 704 00:50:13,343 --> 00:50:16,335 And that was all he ever told me. And then I got it, you know. 705 00:50:19,916 --> 00:50:21,110 Alright, Chicago! 706 00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:27,179 About 60 years ago, in Clarksdale, a young man saw a piano player... 707 00:50:27,257 --> 00:50:30,784 playing in a rehearsal, and he decided he wanted to become a musician. 708 00:50:30,861 --> 00:50:34,627 The young man's name was lke Turner and the piano player was Pinetop Perkins. 709 00:50:35,732 --> 00:50:36,630 This afternoon... 710 00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:41,069 we give you Pinetop Perkins and lke Turner and his Kings of Rhythm! 711 00:50:57,254 --> 00:51:00,052 Big fat mama Meat shaking on her bones 712 00:51:02,659 --> 00:51:05,389 Big fat mama Meat shaking on her bones 713 00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:08,788 Time the meat shakes 714 00:51:09,099 --> 00:51:10,566 Old man gotta go 715 00:51:12,602 --> 00:51:13,933 The big fat mama 716 00:51:15,038 --> 00:51:16,369 The big fat mama 717 00:51:17,641 --> 00:51:18,938 It's a very hip mama 718 00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:21,510 The big fat mama 719 00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:26,011 The big fat mama Meat shaking on her bones 720 00:51:26,183 --> 00:51:27,275 Go on, guys. 721 00:51:58,515 --> 00:52:01,382 Big fat mama Meat shaking on her bones 722 00:52:03,687 --> 00:52:06,520 Big fat mama Meat shaking on her bones 723 00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:10,115 Time the meat shakes 724 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,657 Old man gotta go 725 00:53:00,577 --> 00:53:03,842 Pinetop Perkins at ninety four, whatever... 726 00:53:04,147 --> 00:53:05,739 you know, the music keeps you going. 727 00:53:08,652 --> 00:53:12,088 I hope to be some ninety-year old cat rapping one day, who knows. 728 00:53:22,465 --> 00:53:25,434 I'm a musicologist. I've been a big fan of everything! 729 00:53:25,502 --> 00:53:29,939 Especially rock 'n ' roll, rhythm 'n ' blues, rap, of course. 730 00:53:30,273 --> 00:53:34,073 And then, I was introduced to this record, Electric Mud... 731 00:53:34,277 --> 00:53:38,805 Muddy Waters, and I was like, Yo, this Electric Mud is hot... 732 00:53:38,882 --> 00:53:42,079 and it introduced me to the blues. But I would read that, you know, that... 733 00:53:42,152 --> 00:53:45,121 it wasn't the purest record, you know, the purest in dignity. 734 00:53:45,188 --> 00:53:49,147 So I was like, I can't understand it, coz this was what introduced me to it. 735 00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:54,186 So I sent Marshall an email and we just started corresponding. 736 00:53:54,464 --> 00:53:56,955 And then all of a sudden... 737 00:53:57,667 --> 00:53:58,827 We hooked up. 738 00:53:59,102 --> 00:54:03,334 So what happened is, we started thinking about this project... 739 00:54:03,406 --> 00:54:05,931 and I got the idea to put em together again. 740 00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:08,169 Chuck and I, working' on it, we said... 741 00:54:08,245 --> 00:54:12,204 we need some-one to spit, to come up with the lyrics. 742 00:54:12,282 --> 00:54:14,375 And I was like, saying, the cat... 743 00:54:14,451 --> 00:54:17,818 all he had to do was like, Chicago, Chicago blues... 744 00:54:17,887 --> 00:54:20,412 - It's all about Chicago. - Around the world. 745 00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:23,653 - And there's only one cat that signifies. - One cat. 746 00:54:23,727 --> 00:54:24,694 Thank you, man. 747 00:54:25,295 --> 00:54:29,629 Well, I would love to, definitely. Cause I wanna push the music. 748 00:54:29,699 --> 00:54:32,600 And I'm diggin' into some old stuff. 749 00:54:32,702 --> 00:54:35,466 And definitely I like psychedelic stuff, man. 750 00:54:35,538 --> 00:54:39,634 Actually, the whole thing of being able to play with some historical brothers... 751 00:54:39,709 --> 00:54:41,643 is like a blessing. You know what I'm sayin' 752 00:54:41,711 --> 00:54:43,076 - You're perfect. - Thank you. 753 00:54:43,146 --> 00:54:45,046 You're the guy to do this. 754 00:54:45,115 --> 00:54:46,275 It's in my blood. Like Chuck said... 755 00:54:46,349 --> 00:54:49,580 I can't help but have the blues in my blood, you know... 756 00:54:49,653 --> 00:54:52,622 - from where I grew up, you know. - You were born in Chicago? 757 00:54:52,689 --> 00:54:54,384 - Yeah, I was born in Chicago. - What side? 758 00:54:54,457 --> 00:54:57,893 - South side. - Me, too, I was South Side, where? 759 00:54:57,961 --> 00:55:01,590 - 87th, right, 87th and Stone. - Well, that's my old neighborhood. 760 00:55:01,665 --> 00:55:05,601 I started, I was born around 44th and Drexel, you know. 761 00:55:05,669 --> 00:55:10,072 - Around the Horace Mann elevators? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. You lived there? 762 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:11,505 - God! - What sign are you? 763 00:55:11,574 --> 00:55:12,905 - Pisces. - That's what I am. 764 00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:14,500 - What day? - March 13th. 765 00:55:14,577 --> 00:55:17,011 Oh man, guess what mine is? 766 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,604 - What? - March 13th. 767 00:55:18,682 --> 00:55:20,115 Get outta here. 768 00:55:20,183 --> 00:55:23,346 You weren't born on a Friday, were you? I was. Friday the 13th. 769 00:55:24,087 --> 00:55:28,820 I was, we got the same birthday. We're gonna fly here, our first hug. 770 00:55:32,429 --> 00:55:34,659 Doing' it, doing' it Doing' it, doing' it 771 00:55:35,932 --> 00:55:38,799 Yeah I am doing it Doing it, doing it 772 00:55:39,035 --> 00:55:42,835 I am doing it C, O double M, O to the N 773 00:55:42,906 --> 00:55:44,806 Doing it, doing it Doing it, doing it 774 00:55:44,874 --> 00:55:49,777 Common is the modern day 2003 evolution. 775 00:55:51,414 --> 00:55:55,282 Every generation goes back, goes back, goes back. 776 00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:57,748 I don't want you 777 00:55:58,488 --> 00:56:00,251 To be no slave 778 00:56:01,558 --> 00:56:03,651 I don't want you 779 00:56:04,561 --> 00:56:05,926 To work all day 780 00:56:05,995 --> 00:56:09,692 Even Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, those great early blues guys. 781 00:56:09,766 --> 00:56:15,500 They had fathers: Son House, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Robert Johnson. 782 00:56:15,572 --> 00:56:18,439 These were people that Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf listened to. 783 00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:24,310 They influenced them as much as Muddy influenced the Rolling Stones... 784 00:56:24,381 --> 00:56:27,680 and as much as the Rolling Stones influenced Chuck D... 785 00:56:27,751 --> 00:56:29,912 and as much as Chuck D influenced Common. 786 00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:31,482 I don't want you 787 00:56:32,255 --> 00:56:33,483 To be no slave 788 00:56:33,923 --> 00:56:35,254 I don't want you 789 00:56:35,625 --> 00:56:37,058 To work all day 790 00:56:37,761 --> 00:56:40,958 I don't want you 'Cause I'm sad and blue 791 00:56:41,297 --> 00:56:44,494 I just want To make love to you 792 00:56:44,567 --> 00:56:47,900 In 1964 I got a call from the Rolling Stones that said... 793 00:56:47,971 --> 00:56:51,771 "We want to come to Chicago and record, in the Chess studio. 794 00:56:51,841 --> 00:56:55,333 We got our name from that Muddy Waters record, "Rollin' Stone". 795 00:56:55,412 --> 00:56:57,778 We want to come record in the studio, can you set it up?" 796 00:57:14,464 --> 00:57:16,864 I went to my father and Uncle Phil and said... 797 00:57:16,933 --> 00:57:19,697 " There's this English group, and they got long hair, ya know... 798 00:57:19,769 --> 00:57:23,000 and they had got a couple big hits, they're doing' all our songs". 799 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,829 He said, " Let em come... 800 00:57:24,908 --> 00:57:27,502 maybe we could put some of our songs to em while they're here". 801 00:57:27,777 --> 00:57:29,972 I said, "Great!" So I set up a session. 802 00:57:30,046 --> 00:57:34,608 They came in the summer of '64 and recorded their second album in Chicago. 803 00:57:39,322 --> 00:57:41,517 He's been called the greatest blues drummer in the world. 804 00:57:41,758 --> 00:57:44,226 He's played with Muddy Waters, James Cotton... 805 00:57:44,294 --> 00:57:46,489 a founding member of the Paul Butterfield Blues Band... 806 00:57:47,730 --> 00:57:48,822 appeared on stage... 807 00:57:48,898 --> 00:57:52,959 for the first electric performance with Bob Dylan at the Newport Folk Festival. 808 00:57:54,537 --> 00:57:57,301 The one and only, the legendary, Sam Lay! 809 00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:09,712 I wanna get close to you baby as 810 00:58:09,953 --> 00:58:11,181 White is to rice 811 00:58:11,621 --> 00:58:15,284 Close to you baby as Cold is to ice 812 00:58:15,892 --> 00:58:19,521 Close to you baby As hair on your head 813 00:58:19,996 --> 00:58:23,625 Close to you woman I want to go Please what I say 814 00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:26,100 I want to get close to that woman To death 815 00:58:26,603 --> 00:58:28,798 Don't know what to say or do 816 00:58:28,872 --> 00:58:30,339 Now let me get close to you all 817 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:31,698 Alright! 818 00:58:31,875 --> 00:58:34,935 I wanna get Closer and closer baby 819 00:58:36,479 --> 00:58:39,039 Closer and closer baby 820 00:58:40,483 --> 00:58:43,043 Closer and closer baby 821 00:58:44,621 --> 00:58:47,146 Closer and closer baby 822 00:58:48,124 --> 00:58:50,684 I want to get close to that woman To death 823 00:58:51,060 --> 00:58:54,086 Don't know what to say or do Alright 824 00:58:58,902 --> 00:59:00,267 That's what I'm talking about! 825 00:59:07,076 --> 00:59:08,600 I want to get close to that woman 826 00:59:08,878 --> 00:59:10,311 Marshall, remember Marshall... 827 00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:14,077 Man. 828 00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:18,348 You look sharper than I ever expected. Shit! It's just good to be next to you. 829 00:59:18,421 --> 00:59:20,855 You know, I miss, I miss it. 830 00:59:20,924 --> 00:59:23,688 I mean, you don't miss your water till the well runs dry. 831 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,389 But I didn't even know that I was thirsty till I came back. 832 00:59:27,463 --> 00:59:29,431 And all the memories start pourin' out. 833 00:59:29,499 --> 00:59:31,091 Now, you had made my day. 834 00:59:31,167 --> 00:59:33,362 No, you made mine, man, you made mine. 835 00:59:33,436 --> 00:59:35,427 You remember that Fathers and Sons, remember that night... 836 00:59:35,505 --> 00:59:37,871 when Muddy put the guitar down, and did that dance? 837 00:59:38,308 --> 00:59:39,536 That was something, I'd have never seen. 838 00:59:39,609 --> 00:59:41,839 - That was hot. - That was the good old days. 839 00:59:41,911 --> 00:59:43,401 That was the good old days. 840 00:59:44,647 --> 00:59:46,842 Right now we gonna do one more slide tune. 841 00:59:46,983 --> 00:59:50,248 Back in the '60s, Sam recorded this tune... 842 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,447 with the Paul Butterfield Blues Band. 843 00:59:56,092 --> 00:59:58,686 I got a girl And she just won't be true 844 01:00:00,730 --> 01:00:03,290 I got a girl And she just won't be true 845 01:00:05,468 --> 01:00:08,164 Got to the bridge She won't do a thing I tell her to 846 01:00:09,772 --> 01:00:11,797 She won't shake her moneymaker 847 01:00:12,408 --> 01:00:14,171 Won't shake her moneymaker 848 01:00:14,877 --> 01:00:19,473 Shake her moneymaker 849 01:00:19,549 --> 01:00:22,040 Shake her moneymaker She won't 850 01:00:24,287 --> 01:00:28,815 Sam was just, he was just a young great black drummer... 851 01:00:28,891 --> 01:00:33,453 who somehow got hooked up with these young white guys as well. 852 01:00:33,663 --> 01:00:35,688 And he was on both scenes. 853 01:00:47,010 --> 01:00:50,580 They were all playing together: Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield, man... 854 01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:52,070 Sam Lay was on drums. 855 01:01:01,891 --> 01:01:05,292 Butterfield open doors all over the world for blues in general. 856 01:01:05,728 --> 01:01:07,821 That don't mean whether they're black or white or what... 857 01:01:07,897 --> 01:01:09,728 I'm talking about the blues. 858 01:01:12,568 --> 01:01:16,163 I pretty well know that 'cause I was with him, I went in the doors I had to. 859 01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:18,573 You gotta shake your moneymaker 860 01:01:19,175 --> 01:01:20,972 Shake your moneymaker 861 01:01:21,444 --> 01:01:23,537 Shake your moneymaker 862 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,609 Shake your moneymaker 863 01:01:26,082 --> 01:01:28,642 Shake your moneymaker 864 01:01:30,653 --> 01:01:31,847 Oh I love you baby 865 01:01:31,921 --> 01:01:35,584 When we did that famous Chicago recording, Fathers and Sons... 866 01:01:35,658 --> 01:01:37,421 you know, they wanted Sam playing drums. 867 01:01:40,263 --> 01:01:42,993 This is the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. 868 01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:48,031 Of course we made one of the characters black to represent the fathers. 869 01:01:48,771 --> 01:01:53,868 The sons represent the white younger blues people that were playing. 870 01:02:17,166 --> 01:02:18,531 I noticed it with the Rolling Stones... 871 01:02:18,601 --> 01:02:21,297 I noticed it with Butterfield, Bloomfield, Barry Goldberg. 872 01:02:21,370 --> 01:02:25,466 If they'd had their wish they'd have wanted to be black to sound identical... 873 01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:28,510 to those Chess records that they were covering on stage. 874 01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,838 But it came out their way... 875 01:02:30,947 --> 01:02:33,415 they just added that little bit of whiteness to it. 876 01:02:33,483 --> 01:02:35,508 And that little bit of their way... 877 01:02:35,618 --> 01:02:39,110 really made it accelerate into the white market. 878 01:02:39,388 --> 01:02:43,154 I was born in Chicago in 1941 879 01:02:45,495 --> 01:02:49,363 I was born in Chicago in 1941 880 01:02:51,801 --> 01:02:53,701 Well my father told me 881 01:02:54,003 --> 01:02:56,062 Son you had better get a gun 882 01:02:57,273 --> 01:02:58,535 Butterfield was something else. 883 01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:01,668 He was in there, all the way. Butterfield is a blues singer. 884 01:03:01,744 --> 01:03:04,110 There's no white bullshit with Butterfield... 885 01:03:04,213 --> 01:03:05,874 white-colored thing with him. 886 01:03:06,115 --> 01:03:08,948 He's there. If he was green... 887 01:03:09,018 --> 01:03:10,679 it wouldn't make any difference. 888 01:03:10,753 --> 01:03:13,347 If he was a plenaria, a tuna-fish sandwich... 889 01:03:13,422 --> 01:03:14,980 Butterfield would be into the blues. 890 01:03:36,579 --> 01:03:38,137 In 1965... 891 01:03:38,381 --> 01:03:41,475 the sons, Bloomfield, Butterfield... 892 01:03:41,551 --> 01:03:44,247 played with Bob Dylan at the Newport Festival again. 893 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,653 Same kind of electric blues vibe background. 894 01:03:50,059 --> 01:03:54,758 And I think that Dylan got turned on to these early black acoustic records... 895 01:03:54,864 --> 01:03:57,389 and then of course, just by automatic progression... 896 01:03:57,466 --> 01:03:59,093 got pulled into the electric blues. 897 01:04:00,970 --> 01:04:04,531 I ain't gonna work For Maggie's pa no more 898 01:04:08,511 --> 01:04:12,140 No, I ain't gonna work For Maggie's pa no more 899 01:04:16,419 --> 01:04:20,355 Well, he puts his cigar Out in your face just for kicks 900 01:04:20,590 --> 01:04:24,185 His bedroom window It is made out of bricks 901 01:04:24,527 --> 01:04:27,428 The National Guard stands Around his door 902 01:04:28,264 --> 01:04:31,893 Ah, I ain't gonna work For Maggie's pa no more 903 01:04:33,035 --> 01:04:34,127 Alright! 904 01:04:48,484 --> 01:04:49,280 Hey, man. 905 01:04:49,352 --> 01:04:51,445 - How you doing? - This is Morris, Morris Jennings. 906 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,647 - My pleasure! - Oh, my pleasure. 907 01:04:53,723 --> 01:04:56,021 I got your poster at home. 908 01:04:56,092 --> 01:04:57,923 - My poster? Oh man! - Yeah. 909 01:04:57,994 --> 01:04:59,052 My man with the clock. 910 01:05:05,534 --> 01:05:06,398 How you doing? 911 01:05:06,469 --> 01:05:07,993 - Man, better than ever. - That's good. 912 01:05:08,371 --> 01:05:10,635 Usually, I was telling Marshall earlier... 913 01:05:10,706 --> 01:05:13,971 I mean, we're recording now, but once I'm amongst royalty... 914 01:05:14,043 --> 01:05:17,706 I'll just sit back and listen. 'You got something to say or what? ' 915 01:05:18,614 --> 01:05:21,378 I'm always sitting, asking questions... 916 01:05:21,450 --> 01:05:25,386 trying to, trying to soak the soul, you know... 917 01:05:25,588 --> 01:05:29,490 because you gentlemen have stories to tell, and they need to be heard. 918 01:05:29,558 --> 01:05:31,992 Young people out there today, they don't... 919 01:05:32,328 --> 01:05:34,796 they don't even really follow artists from five years ago. 920 01:05:34,864 --> 01:05:35,796 No, they don't. 921 01:05:35,865 --> 01:05:40,234 It's like we're trying to, like, reverse some of that. And Electric Mud... 922 01:05:40,303 --> 01:05:44,034 as I was explaining earlier, introduced me to the blues. 923 01:05:44,106 --> 01:05:44,800 Alright! 924 01:05:44,874 --> 01:05:46,535 That's how we hooked up! Over e-mail! 925 01:05:46,575 --> 01:05:49,840 He was right, man, he was right about hookin' that stuff up. 926 01:05:49,912 --> 01:05:51,539 He wanted to hook the hippies up. 927 01:05:51,614 --> 01:05:53,275 I come from New York. 928 01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:56,409 Not only hippies! Anyone that didn't... 929 01:05:56,485 --> 01:05:59,579 I wanted to bring in a new audience to that music, you know... 930 01:06:00,022 --> 01:06:01,717 that was the whole idea there. 931 01:06:01,791 --> 01:06:03,884 Everything, especially Rotary Connection. 932 01:06:04,293 --> 01:06:05,988 - Yeah. - You know, Soulful Strings... 933 01:06:06,262 --> 01:06:08,730 Electric Mud, where'd you even find Electric Mud? 934 01:06:08,798 --> 01:06:10,595 Well, you know, one of my partners, G-Whiz... 935 01:06:10,666 --> 01:06:13,567 was like, 'This is the shit! ' 936 01:06:14,971 --> 01:06:16,268 And you know... 937 01:06:18,074 --> 01:06:20,599 Thirty years later, to hear that fucks me up. 938 01:06:20,676 --> 01:06:24,578 "This is the shit. You got the playing..." 939 01:06:26,916 --> 01:06:28,178 "Look, both of them have it". 940 01:06:54,477 --> 01:06:57,173 - My hero! - Common! 941 01:06:57,980 --> 01:06:59,504 - My hero. - One of my heroes. 942 01:06:59,715 --> 01:07:03,879 - What's up? - What's up, buddy? 943 01:07:03,953 --> 01:07:05,511 Why you so clean, man? 944 01:07:05,588 --> 01:07:07,715 He's not clean. He's sharp. 945 01:07:07,790 --> 01:07:09,781 I'm coming to see my best friends! 946 01:07:19,168 --> 01:07:20,965 We knew you'd be the whipped cream on the cake! 947 01:07:25,007 --> 01:07:28,101 - This is Chuck D. - Pleasure, dog. 948 01:07:28,177 --> 01:07:29,201 Much respect, man. 949 01:07:29,278 --> 01:07:31,906 Common, the greatest rapper from Chicago, man, number one. 950 01:07:31,981 --> 01:07:34,176 - My daughters use to braid his hair. - Alright, man. 951 01:07:36,118 --> 01:07:39,781 I can't believe we're all sitting here. It feels good. 952 01:07:39,855 --> 01:07:45,225 I just want to say, I'm really deeply honored to even be amongst y'all... 953 01:07:45,294 --> 01:07:48,286 - sitting at the table. I mean, you know... - We're everyday people, everyday people. 954 01:07:48,364 --> 01:07:50,332 Grocery store, we drive truck. 955 01:07:50,399 --> 01:07:53,425 We told some dudes now that are dead the same thing. 956 01:07:56,138 --> 01:07:58,834 It was amazing the day we met, well, Marshall... 957 01:07:58,908 --> 01:08:00,933 we went to the studio that day... 958 01:08:01,010 --> 01:08:03,879 the engineer had Electric Mud sitting right there. 959 01:08:03,879 --> 01:08:09,442 I was like... I swear to you... Electric Mud sitting right there. 960 01:08:09,518 --> 01:08:12,487 This was at the Jimi Hendrix studio, Electric Lady, I walked in there... 961 01:08:12,555 --> 01:08:15,353 and I just couldn't believe. I said 'That's divine, right here'. 962 01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:19,588 The only thing about us, see, is that we were blessed enough to be born... 963 01:08:19,662 --> 01:08:23,996 to be the best, anything less can't hang... 964 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,901 ain't gonna hang, ain't gonna be at the same stage, we won't allow that. 965 01:08:28,137 --> 01:08:32,005 We won't allow nothing to come in and ruin the groove. Because the groove... 966 01:08:32,074 --> 01:08:34,634 if we don't have groove, forget about the notes! 967 01:08:34,944 --> 01:08:39,711 If the groove ain't there, whatever's in the way of the groove is gone. 968 01:08:39,782 --> 01:08:43,809 We don't allow that. We don't care, he could be writing the check. 969 01:08:43,886 --> 01:08:47,378 So if the thing that's destroying the groove is writing the check... 970 01:08:47,456 --> 01:08:48,582 we play free. 971 01:08:52,828 --> 01:08:54,261 And it's simple as that. 972 01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:08,738 Gospel music was first. 973 01:09:09,011 --> 01:09:13,072 It's not called blues, but it IS blues. I mean, it is if you listen to it. 974 01:09:14,483 --> 01:09:15,450 Let's party now. 975 01:09:15,818 --> 01:09:19,447 Like, I was going back to the old negro spirituals, and they would say... 976 01:09:19,522 --> 01:09:23,583 Oh baby Oh Lord 977 01:09:23,792 --> 01:09:27,023 It was the same music, but the word's changed. 978 01:09:32,101 --> 01:09:35,502 It was a big thing about this. They used to call the blues negative. 979 01:09:35,571 --> 01:09:38,540 Black people, a lot of black, like my grandmother, did not appreciate it. 980 01:09:38,607 --> 01:09:42,737 My grandmother would say, 'I'll not have this boy playin' music... 981 01:09:42,811 --> 01:09:46,542 because the first thing you know, he's gonna be playin' those blues'. 982 01:10:04,934 --> 01:10:06,561 We've got a good thing here and... 983 01:10:06,635 --> 01:10:07,761 the plan is... 984 01:10:08,404 --> 01:10:13,569 to get into the studio for two days, with Chuck and Common, and us... 985 01:10:13,943 --> 01:10:16,844 and do a couple cuts, and if the seed grows. 986 01:10:16,912 --> 01:10:18,846 You keep saying "if". You said if... 987 01:10:18,914 --> 01:10:21,348 Yeh, "when". Right. Forget the "if", I'm going to be more positive. 988 01:10:21,417 --> 01:10:24,318 There is no reason this should not be successful... 989 01:10:24,486 --> 01:10:26,852 simply because we're in a different time... 990 01:10:26,922 --> 01:10:28,856 different molecules. 991 01:10:28,924 --> 01:10:31,188 Different minds are in control of things... 992 01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:34,320 different minds are out there, more receptive, understand? 993 01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:36,091 These young men here... 994 01:10:36,165 --> 01:10:40,431 found their way back to the roots of our American music... 995 01:10:40,669 --> 01:10:43,160 through the gateway, which was Electric Mud. 996 01:10:43,706 --> 01:10:48,439 People who pander it, critics, we have to keep in mind one thing... 997 01:10:48,777 --> 01:10:50,836 most critics don't do anything. 998 01:10:51,380 --> 01:10:53,177 They can't create anything... 999 01:10:53,249 --> 01:10:56,650 so what they do is they criticize, they dump on things. 1000 01:10:56,719 --> 01:10:59,415 This has been throughout time... 1001 01:10:59,488 --> 01:11:02,685 they did the same thing to Dizzy Gillespie and Charles Parker... 1002 01:11:03,092 --> 01:11:04,559 John Coltrane. 1003 01:11:05,294 --> 01:11:09,128 I've always figured that critics were probably... 1004 01:11:09,198 --> 01:11:12,167 re-incarnations of the mob that crucified Christ. 1005 01:11:16,772 --> 01:11:18,171 There you go. 1006 01:11:34,189 --> 01:11:37,215 Hip hop and rap: It's not always pretty... 1007 01:11:37,826 --> 01:11:41,626 just like the blues isn't always about beauty, it's not always pretty. 1008 01:11:41,864 --> 01:11:44,890 You could tell a sad story, you could tell a tragic story... 1009 01:11:45,167 --> 01:11:48,500 you can also tell a joyous and a happy story. 1010 01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:53,097 And with that connection, it's like father-son, brother-brother... 1011 01:11:53,342 --> 01:11:57,438 it is absolutely connected, it's just a matter of what you put up under there. 1012 01:11:58,947 --> 01:12:00,812 Like there used to be a sort of a schism... 1013 01:12:00,883 --> 01:12:03,681 between the jazz musicians and the blues musicians. 1014 01:12:04,019 --> 01:12:07,853 Well, I would think the only difference between Muddy and Miles was... 1015 01:12:07,923 --> 01:12:10,357 Miles was real thin, and Muddy was kind of chunky. 1016 01:12:11,994 --> 01:12:18,331 And Miles spoke like this: "Yeh, what's happening?" 1017 01:12:18,734 --> 01:12:23,228 And Muddy spoke like: "I don't know what, I don't know, what, what, what?" 1018 01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:25,898 - Alright! - Other than that... 1019 01:12:26,241 --> 01:12:27,799 Miles played the blues! 1020 01:12:41,724 --> 01:12:43,123 Are you gonna buy some vinyl in there? 1021 01:12:43,659 --> 01:12:44,785 I'll buy some shit. 1022 01:12:54,803 --> 01:12:56,100 A lot of blues! 1023 01:12:56,538 --> 01:13:00,269 'Jazz Casual. John Coltrane. Not Seen In Over 25 Years' 1024 01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:07,077 This looks crazy! See that? This is the kind of shit I buy! 1025 01:13:07,149 --> 01:13:10,846 My man is wearing pink gear that shit, that shit is crazy right there! 1026 01:13:10,919 --> 01:13:11,851 I'm buying it! 1027 01:13:12,588 --> 01:13:13,987 This is the used blues area. 1028 01:13:14,890 --> 01:13:16,289 Art 'Blues Boy' White. 1029 01:13:16,592 --> 01:13:19,584 My man got a bronze phone and a bottle of Hennessy. 1030 01:13:19,862 --> 01:13:22,057 You know what I'm saying? This is like a rap cover. 1031 01:13:22,865 --> 01:13:26,357 This is like a rap cover, but the guy's old enough to be the guy's Pops. 1032 01:13:26,568 --> 01:13:28,092 And that's the only difference. 1033 01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:30,161 That's how I draw my parallels, you know what I'm sayin'. 1034 01:13:30,973 --> 01:13:33,134 How many times you seen a rapper on top of a car? 1035 01:13:33,442 --> 01:13:36,605 You may have heard of jalopies You heard the noise they make 1036 01:13:36,678 --> 01:13:39,647 Let me introduce you To my Rocket '88 1037 01:13:39,715 --> 01:13:42,843 Yes it's great, just won't wait 1038 01:13:43,085 --> 01:13:45,781 Everybody likes my Rocket '88 1039 01:13:45,854 --> 01:13:49,984 Baby will ride in style Moving all along 1040 01:13:52,261 --> 01:13:56,857 You know, clothes and cars were a big symbol for the same immigrant crowd... 1041 01:13:56,932 --> 01:13:59,628 that I'm calling on my dad and our artists. 1042 01:13:59,935 --> 01:14:01,835 It was the same symbol of success. 1043 01:14:02,404 --> 01:14:03,632 In fact, Muddy Waters! 1044 01:14:03,872 --> 01:14:07,501 The first time I saw Muddy Waters, young kid, out in front of the house... 1045 01:14:07,576 --> 01:14:09,373 big black Cadillac pulls up. 1046 01:14:09,578 --> 01:14:13,810 I looked up, this tall guy came out, and I looked at him, I was shocked... 1047 01:14:13,882 --> 01:14:17,283 he had on this bright green, electric green suit. 1048 01:14:17,519 --> 01:14:20,386 I looked down, and his shoes, they had like, fur... 1049 01:14:20,456 --> 01:14:23,914 you could see the hairs, of a pinto-pony or a cow! 1050 01:14:26,428 --> 01:14:31,991 Why I say hip hop and blues are cousins, first cousins. 1051 01:14:33,268 --> 01:14:35,702 I bought this record specifically for the cover! 1052 01:14:35,771 --> 01:14:39,639 Yeah, that's a great cover! Alligator does do its covers. 1053 01:14:39,708 --> 01:14:43,007 I mean, to me that's what hip hop is. Hip hop is what you're feeling. 1054 01:14:43,078 --> 01:14:44,875 To me, hip hop is whatever makes me move. 1055 01:14:45,347 --> 01:14:48,714 A lot of stuff in here makes me move, so to me, this is hip hop. 1056 01:14:49,017 --> 01:14:52,748 Well, rap doesn't it pretty much have its origin in the Dirty Dozens? 1057 01:14:52,821 --> 01:14:53,947 Well, yeah, but... 1058 01:14:54,022 --> 01:14:56,718 I've gotta give you a copy of Special Red's Dirty Dozens. 1059 01:14:57,159 --> 01:14:58,524 This guy made the first record. 1060 01:14:58,594 --> 01:14:59,993 I had your sister I had your mother too 1061 01:15:00,062 --> 01:15:02,428 I woulda had your father But the son of a bitch flew 1062 01:15:07,469 --> 01:15:11,098 Alright, guys, so here's the original Muddy, the first one, you know? 1063 01:15:11,373 --> 01:15:14,342 I'm gonna play you some of that, and then we'll start groovin! 1064 01:15:14,810 --> 01:15:17,779 Check it out! Check out the master here singing. 1065 01:15:34,429 --> 01:15:36,590 - Now when I was a young boy - Yeah. 1066 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,628 - At the age of five - Ok. 1067 01:15:41,436 --> 01:15:42,903 My mother said I was gonna be 1068 01:15:44,740 --> 01:15:46,298 The greatest man alive 1069 01:15:48,176 --> 01:15:50,007 But now I'm a man 1070 01:15:51,747 --> 01:15:53,305 A man way past 21 1071 01:15:55,183 --> 01:15:56,582 I want you to believe me Honey 1072 01:15:58,587 --> 01:16:00,111 I had lots of fun 1073 01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:03,079 I'm a man 1074 01:16:03,659 --> 01:16:05,092 When we got into the studio... 1075 01:16:05,494 --> 01:16:07,894 it was like nothing had changed. It was like... 1076 01:16:08,096 --> 01:16:09,028 it was just the same... 1077 01:16:09,097 --> 01:16:11,998 it's just that middle period hadn't existed, it could have been yesterday... 1078 01:16:12,067 --> 01:16:15,230 we were in the studio at Chess. We were all the same, you know? 1079 01:16:15,804 --> 01:16:17,931 We're ready! We're ready in here! 1080 01:16:19,575 --> 01:16:21,042 We're rolling! 1081 01:16:21,209 --> 01:16:22,904 Here it is! 1082 01:16:40,362 --> 01:16:43,126 This is definitely like the hardest audience we ever had. 1083 01:16:43,832 --> 01:16:46,733 I know, man, it's like "Yo, we've heard it all!" 1084 01:16:55,711 --> 01:16:57,110 The cadence is going like this... 1085 01:16:59,081 --> 01:17:00,742 Natural born Let's get it on 1086 01:17:00,816 --> 01:17:02,181 Age of one Just big gun 1087 01:17:02,451 --> 01:17:05,079 To understand what it took To be a man, yeah 1088 01:17:05,954 --> 01:17:09,219 Got my groove back Mudcats Come on gimme gimme some of that uh! 1089 01:17:09,424 --> 01:17:11,187 Gimme some of that Gimme some of that 1090 01:17:11,259 --> 01:17:14,285 On the one, on the drums y'all Come and get some MJ 1091 01:17:14,363 --> 01:17:15,830 Can you come and get some of this 1092 01:17:16,098 --> 01:17:19,295 Here the drums can you come And get some of this man-child 1093 01:17:19,568 --> 01:17:22,002 Everything gonna be alright, y'all 1094 01:17:22,904 --> 01:17:25,395 Everything gonna be alright now 1095 01:17:26,308 --> 01:17:29,175 Everything gonna be alright y'all 1096 01:17:29,911 --> 01:17:32,607 Everything gonna be alright chil' 1097 01:17:32,981 --> 01:17:36,473 There's serious misconceptions We got brothers in the wrong direction 1098 01:17:36,718 --> 01:17:39,448 Talking' 'bout doing it For their own damn protection 1099 01:17:39,821 --> 01:17:42,847 So what's the premise? You got to be all up in this 1100 01:17:43,125 --> 01:17:46,492 Time for him to be a man and Start handling his business 1101 01:17:46,662 --> 01:17:49,995 Money don't make the man But how he makes the money does 1102 01:17:50,065 --> 01:17:53,159 So let's get back to the root And give it up to what it was 1103 01:17:53,235 --> 01:17:54,099 Good Lord! 1104 01:17:54,169 --> 01:17:56,228 Everything gonna be alright now 1105 01:17:57,072 --> 01:18:00,405 Everything gonna be alright child 1106 01:18:00,742 --> 01:18:04,178 - Everything gonna be alright now - Oh child 1107 01:18:04,246 --> 01:18:05,975 Everything gonna be alright 1108 01:18:06,048 --> 01:18:07,743 The flavor is rising up! 1109 01:18:36,011 --> 01:18:38,070 Oh yeah 1110 01:18:41,983 --> 01:18:44,178 Oh yeah 1111 01:18:48,156 --> 01:18:51,091 Oh yeah 1112 01:18:53,895 --> 01:18:57,194 I gotta do this, man, I gotta do this. 1113 01:18:57,265 --> 01:18:58,357 I gotta pay homage. 1114 01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:00,794 I gotta pay homage to the masters. 1115 01:19:02,504 --> 01:19:04,836 I've just retired... 1116 01:19:05,207 --> 01:19:07,437 I'm done, I'm done. 1117 01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:14,546 I'm still not afraid to make the worst blues album ever made. 1118 01:19:14,616 --> 01:19:16,607 Because you gotta take risks. 1119 01:19:16,685 --> 01:19:19,051 I found that out a long time ago from my father. 1120 01:19:19,121 --> 01:19:21,248 He said, "If you're gonna be listening to everyone else... 1121 01:19:21,323 --> 01:19:22,688 you're never gonna do anything special. 1122 01:19:23,191 --> 01:19:24,681 You've gotta go with your own feelings". 1123 01:19:25,827 --> 01:19:26,816 You know, my father... 1124 01:19:27,562 --> 01:19:31,828 Now, lookin' back, I see that he was trying to shape me into being... 1125 01:19:31,900 --> 01:19:35,063 a record man or maybe he was just shaping me into being a man. 1126 01:19:36,004 --> 01:19:40,668 Obviously your dad moved on to different areas, of course, and you were like... 1127 01:19:40,742 --> 01:19:43,040 "Ok, you know, I'm going to be running this building". 1128 01:19:43,311 --> 01:19:46,371 I know it had had to seep into your mind a couple of times but... 1129 01:19:46,448 --> 01:19:48,416 I'm gonna be... I'm not so much running the building. 1130 01:19:48,483 --> 01:19:50,849 - I was... no... - Get records out and... 1131 01:19:50,919 --> 01:19:56,414 I was really, I was so integrated into it at such a young age... 1132 01:19:56,491 --> 01:19:58,118 that that never entered my mind. 1133 01:19:58,193 --> 01:20:01,094 That's why when he sold, it was like a guillotine... 1134 01:20:01,163 --> 01:20:03,461 even though I was supposed to get this piece of money... 1135 01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:04,863 - I was going to start my own thing. - Right. 1136 01:20:05,300 --> 01:20:08,167 It was like taking an Olympic event away from me... 1137 01:20:08,236 --> 01:20:10,261 after training for twenty years for this event... 1138 01:20:10,338 --> 01:20:11,828 you know, then all of the sudden they cancel the Olympics! 1139 01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:19,637 Something told me it was over 1140 01:20:23,552 --> 01:20:27,750 When I saw you And her talking 1141 01:20:31,726 --> 01:20:33,694 Something deep down 1142 01:20:34,296 --> 01:20:38,756 In my soul said 'Cry, girl' 1143 01:20:41,069 --> 01:20:42,832 When I saw you And that girl 1144 01:20:42,904 --> 01:20:47,136 In 1969 my father died, he died at fifty-two years old. 1145 01:20:49,044 --> 01:20:50,204 I was devastated. 1146 01:20:52,747 --> 01:20:56,706 I was on a plane, coming back from LA, spoke with him right before I left. 1147 01:20:56,785 --> 01:20:59,015 Landed, found out he was dead. 1148 01:20:59,087 --> 01:21:03,649 Then to see you walk away From me, child, no 1149 01:21:07,562 --> 01:21:10,326 So you see I love you so much 1150 01:21:10,966 --> 01:21:14,231 That I don't wanna watch You leave me, baby 1151 01:21:16,638 --> 01:21:17,332 Most of all 1152 01:21:17,405 --> 01:21:19,498 By pure coincidence, someone called me up and said... 1153 01:21:19,541 --> 01:21:21,304 they hear the Rolling Stones... 1154 01:21:21,376 --> 01:21:25,335 were looking for a whole new way to do their business. A new record label. 1155 01:21:26,147 --> 01:21:28,411 So, I ended up going to London... 1156 01:21:28,817 --> 01:21:31,945 and then spent seven years running the Rolling Stones company. 1157 01:21:37,525 --> 01:21:41,291 It's funny My life has changed 1158 01:21:42,264 --> 01:21:46,064 It's funny, funny, Funny, funny 1159 01:21:53,241 --> 01:21:54,469 It's funny how 1160 01:21:57,679 --> 01:21:58,543 It's funny 1161 01:21:59,247 --> 01:22:00,043 It's funny 1162 01:22:00,715 --> 01:22:01,704 It's funny 1163 01:22:02,517 --> 01:22:05,918 Hello! It's Marshall! All right! 1164 01:22:06,388 --> 01:22:08,686 You gotta get moving, you've got to be up there in the next thirty minutes. 1165 01:22:13,128 --> 01:22:17,588 But then, my nightmare kept happening. One sister died... 1166 01:22:18,433 --> 01:22:21,698 another year and a half went by, other sister died. 1167 01:22:21,770 --> 01:22:24,796 And shortly after, my mother died. And then that was... 1168 01:22:25,373 --> 01:22:27,534 that was it: My whole family was gone. 1169 01:22:27,609 --> 01:22:31,773 Oh I felt so sad, so Ionesome 1170 01:22:33,114 --> 01:22:35,480 That I could not help 1171 01:22:35,917 --> 01:22:38,317 But cry 1172 01:22:38,386 --> 01:22:40,854 I began on the sex-drugs-and-rock'n'roll. 1173 01:22:40,922 --> 01:22:43,652 And the drugs eased a little bit of that pain. 1174 01:23:03,445 --> 01:23:04,537 Finally I was... 1175 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,875 with the Stones almost seven years at that time. 1176 01:23:08,350 --> 01:23:10,011 I wasn't happy with my life, so I quit. 1177 01:23:12,087 --> 01:23:14,555 But then I met my wife, and I began to have my own family... 1178 01:23:14,622 --> 01:23:16,089 and once you start your own family... 1179 01:23:16,157 --> 01:23:20,253 you sort of see that your father's still within you, and within your kids... 1180 01:23:20,328 --> 01:23:21,818 and you just pass that along. 1181 01:23:28,236 --> 01:23:31,296 And my dad never complimented me. 1182 01:23:31,539 --> 01:23:35,999 But he did once tell me that he was confident I could survive. 1183 01:23:36,244 --> 01:23:38,178 He thought that was his main job, you know... 1184 01:23:38,246 --> 01:23:39,873 to get me to be able to survive. 1185 01:23:43,852 --> 01:23:47,288 When my children ask me about my father, I always say... 1186 01:23:47,355 --> 01:23:49,880 well, the moment he would have just been amazed at... 1187 01:23:49,958 --> 01:23:55,055 is when Voyager I and Voyager II went into outer space, sifting for aliens... 1188 01:23:55,130 --> 01:23:58,190 they put a disk on there with all famous music. 1189 01:23:58,266 --> 01:24:00,894 His mother told him "Someday you will be a man 1190 01:24:00,969 --> 01:24:03,460 And you will be the leader Of a big old band" 1191 01:24:03,538 --> 01:24:05,529 They put on "Johnny B. Goode" by Chuck Berry. 1192 01:24:08,009 --> 01:24:09,374 I tell my kids... 1193 01:24:09,444 --> 01:24:14,074 "Your grandfather produced a record that represents the Earth to aliens. 1194 01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:17,141 What could be better than that for a Jewish immigrant from Poland?" 1195 01:24:17,652 --> 01:24:19,643 Go go Go Johnny go 1196 01:24:20,555 --> 01:24:22,580 Go go go Johnny go 1197 01:24:23,391 --> 01:24:25,518 Go go go Johnny go 1198 01:24:27,062 --> 01:24:27,858 Go 1199 01:24:29,330 --> 01:24:30,695 Johnny Be Good 1200 01:24:44,045 --> 01:24:47,208 What's up, Common! Big day! 1201 01:24:47,482 --> 01:24:48,540 They are downstairs. 1202 01:25:01,629 --> 01:25:03,688 Birthday boy! You made it, finally! 1203 01:25:04,132 --> 01:25:05,724 My prayers have got answered. 1204 01:25:06,534 --> 01:25:08,263 Alright, I'm gonna go sit over there with Pete now. 1205 01:25:20,482 --> 01:25:21,710 I liked that. I liked that. 1206 01:25:22,317 --> 01:25:23,306 It could be good. 1207 01:25:24,519 --> 01:25:25,986 It's a "under-band", ya know. 1208 01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:31,286 All you looking for me is just for some freestyle? 1209 01:25:31,359 --> 01:25:36,160 Freestyle on the 2nd half of this album. It's like, two minutes max, not even. 1210 01:25:36,364 --> 01:25:37,353 Alright. 1211 01:25:39,567 --> 01:25:40,898 C'mon baby, let's do it 1212 01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:42,734 You know what? 1213 01:25:42,971 --> 01:25:45,599 Everything gonna be alright, y'all 1214 01:25:46,374 --> 01:25:49,343 Everything gonna be alright 1215 01:25:49,844 --> 01:25:52,711 Everything gonna be alright 1216 01:25:53,214 --> 01:25:55,739 Everything gonna be alright, y'all 1217 01:25:57,285 --> 01:25:58,582 We talking about the man 1218 01:25:58,920 --> 01:25:59,978 A man's world 1219 01:26:00,588 --> 01:26:01,953 We talking about a man 1220 01:26:02,157 --> 01:26:03,351 A man's girl 1221 01:26:04,259 --> 01:26:06,727 Being full blown in his home 1222 01:26:07,629 --> 01:26:09,927 Take care responsibility And his own 1223 01:26:10,798 --> 01:26:13,198 Talking about a man Exploring himself 1224 01:26:14,335 --> 01:26:16,769 Knowing that his body Is worth more than wealth 1225 01:26:17,772 --> 01:26:20,297 Talking about a man Having scriptures on his shelf 1226 01:26:20,542 --> 01:26:22,203 Check me when I was a young boy. 1227 01:26:23,444 --> 01:26:24,274 Pete. 1228 01:26:25,713 --> 01:26:28,580 That's me, that's Pete. See Pete? With the big afro? 1229 01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:31,145 They wanted to call them, remember? Electric Niggers... 1230 01:26:31,219 --> 01:26:32,447 that's what you were gonna call yourselves. 1231 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,818 My father says, "You want to get us killed?" 1232 01:26:35,023 --> 01:26:37,617 Some where a place Where we understand God but we know 1233 01:26:37,859 --> 01:26:40,123 Everything gonna be alright, y'all 1234 01:26:41,129 --> 01:26:44,326 Everything gonna be alright 1235 01:26:44,866 --> 01:26:47,562 Everything gonna be alright 1236 01:26:47,936 --> 01:26:50,700 Everything gonna be alright, y'all 1237 01:26:52,273 --> 01:26:54,104 Talking bout a man And his children 1238 01:26:55,443 --> 01:26:57,377 Talk about a man Right here in his building 1239 01:26:58,713 --> 01:27:01,273 Talk about a man Expressing his feelings 1240 01:27:02,650 --> 01:27:04,777 Ain't got no time For robbing or stealing 1241 01:27:06,354 --> 01:27:09,118 There's no doubt that there's a connection. 1242 01:27:09,190 --> 01:27:11,818 Hip Hop is definitely a child of the blues. 1243 01:27:13,728 --> 01:27:16,458 And I think you've got to know the roots to really grow. 1244 01:27:18,499 --> 01:27:21,627 It's knowing your parents, man, it's like knowin'your culture... 1245 01:27:21,703 --> 01:27:23,830 so you can be proud of that culture... 1246 01:27:23,905 --> 01:27:25,270 and take it to the world. 1247 01:27:25,340 --> 01:27:28,901 Like hey, "This is where it came from, this is where we're taking it. 1248 01:27:28,977 --> 01:27:33,277 We're utilizing the origins of this, to take it somewhere else. 1249 01:27:33,348 --> 01:27:36,476 We pay homage, we're taken it to a new place. 1250 01:27:37,118 --> 01:27:40,212 What can make a man Feel like a man in this world? 1251 01:27:40,521 --> 01:27:43,513 Feeling like a man understanding Him and his girl 1252 01:27:43,958 --> 01:27:46,984 Walking through the mud Not letting it get him down 1253 01:27:47,428 --> 01:27:50,329 Same place where he is lost Now he's found 1254 01:27:50,732 --> 01:27:54,759 So I definitely want to be a vessel for the blues to get to the youth. 1255 01:27:56,771 --> 01:27:58,329 Jimi definitely was a vessel. 1256 01:27:59,307 --> 01:28:03,869 I was lookin' at Jimi like, man, I know the blues just meant so much to him. 1257 01:28:09,150 --> 01:28:11,118 Have you ever heard of Mississippi? 1258 01:28:13,254 --> 01:28:15,051 Have you ever heard of Muddy Waters? 1259 01:28:17,125 --> 01:28:19,320 You know the story behind Jimi the cat, right? 1260 01:28:20,094 --> 01:28:23,552 It pretty much goes that the spirit of Jimi Hendrix is inside the cat. 1261 01:28:39,981 --> 01:28:43,348 Hendrix was able to take the blues and put it on steroids. 1262 01:28:44,085 --> 01:28:48,078 Now, if you're a musician looking at Jimi Hendrix... 1263 01:28:48,356 --> 01:28:50,688 do you copy his techniques? No! 1264 01:28:50,758 --> 01:28:52,419 But you copy his mindset. 1265 01:28:53,695 --> 01:28:56,721 That's something that's always helped me making rap music. 1266 01:28:56,798 --> 01:29:01,030 Okay, yeah, it's rap music. It's rap over music, that's already been defined. 1267 01:29:01,102 --> 01:29:04,868 But can you understand the definition, and can you redefine... 1268 01:29:04,939 --> 01:29:06,031 where it can go? 1269 01:29:25,226 --> 01:29:26,318 I'm a man! 1270 01:29:27,161 --> 01:29:29,721 I'm a man! 1271 01:29:35,870 --> 01:29:39,135 Shorty did it first But now we got a grand new burst 1272 01:29:39,207 --> 01:29:42,472 Got a new breed on the proceed That was planted before the hearse 1273 01:29:42,744 --> 01:29:45,907 So slow Buried deep under ground 1274 01:29:45,980 --> 01:29:49,541 Now Common, Chuck and Kyle Gonna bring it all back around 1275 01:29:49,617 --> 01:29:52,916 With the help the godfathers Better plan to be a son 1276 01:29:52,987 --> 01:29:56,047 Be the new kings of Chess Bring the blues back to one 1277 01:29:56,124 --> 01:30:00,584 Come on, baby, yeah 1278 01:30:01,963 --> 01:30:06,627 I'm talking about men baby, yeah 1279 01:30:14,675 --> 01:30:15,767 I'm a man! 1280 01:30:16,511 --> 01:30:19,207 I'm a man! 1281 01:30:19,781 --> 01:30:24,878 I'm 1282 01:30:24,952 --> 01:30:26,044 I'm a man! 1283 01:30:31,092 --> 01:30:34,789 Marshall was like one of those guys at right place at the right time... 1284 01:30:34,862 --> 01:30:36,762 that took advantage of that timing. 1285 01:30:37,231 --> 01:30:40,098 And he's at the center of the swirl. 1286 01:30:40,168 --> 01:30:43,331 Look at me, forty years and I'm still loving being in front of a board. 1287 01:30:43,404 --> 01:30:45,338 - I know, I've seen it. - And messing with you motherfuckers. 1288 01:30:45,406 --> 01:30:48,102 Can't you see it in his face, man? 1289 01:30:48,176 --> 01:30:52,510 - You seen his face? - He's sitting with gleam in his eye. 1290 01:30:52,580 --> 01:30:56,038 And still getting a buzz, like, when you go down, and when Kyle this and that... 1291 01:30:56,117 --> 01:30:58,984 You know, I don't care if it sells one, the buzz is already down. 1292 01:30:59,053 --> 01:31:01,521 I mean, that's the good shit, and I still get the buzz going' 1293 01:31:02,323 --> 01:31:04,348 From the first email. This is for the film. 1294 01:31:04,425 --> 01:31:05,756 From the first email you buzzed me... 1295 01:31:05,827 --> 01:31:08,887 Oh, now, come on, man! We're not doing' it for the film, fuck the film! 1296 01:31:09,464 --> 01:31:11,295 This is real! 1297 01:31:11,566 --> 01:31:12,555 This is for fucking real! 1298 01:31:33,721 --> 01:31:36,246 All night long 1299 01:31:37,258 --> 01:31:39,192 All night long 1300 01:31:39,260 --> 01:31:41,785 Muddy, Will, Little Walter, John Lee Hooker... 1301 01:31:41,863 --> 01:31:44,423 Chuck Berry, Bo Diddly and here it is Koko Taylor... 1302 01:31:44,499 --> 01:31:45,557 still doing it! 1303 01:31:46,267 --> 01:31:47,256 These are the legends. 1304 01:31:51,906 --> 01:31:55,808 This is the roots of it all, as Willie Dixon said. 1305 01:31:56,177 --> 01:31:58,168 It's the roots that make the fruits. 1306 01:33:04,478 --> 01:33:06,036 If you 1307 01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:09,108 Use your day you mind 1308 01:33:11,619 --> 01:33:13,348 And you're 1309 01:33:13,588 --> 01:33:16,284 And you're ten year and no time 1310 01:33:19,527 --> 01:33:21,085 Bye 1311 01:33:21,395 --> 01:33:23,659 Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1312 01:33:23,831 --> 01:33:24,923 Everybody singing! 1313 01:33:26,934 --> 01:33:28,424 Bye 1314 01:33:28,636 --> 01:33:31,161 Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1315 01:33:31,505 --> 01:33:33,564 Yeah 1316 01:33:34,375 --> 01:33:36,002 Bye 1317 01:33:36,177 --> 01:33:38,509 Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1318 01:33:41,816 --> 01:33:45,877 Bye Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1319 01:33:48,990 --> 01:33:52,926 Bye Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1320 01:33:56,197 --> 01:34:00,327 Bye Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1321 01:34:03,237 --> 01:34:07,139 Bye Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1322 01:34:10,311 --> 01:34:14,441 Bye Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1323 01:34:17,718 --> 01:34:21,779 Bye Bye bye, baby, bye bye 1324 01:34:24,091 --> 01:34:27,891 Bye Bye bye, baby, bye bye